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More AL MVP Talk

As I posted earlier, the next week will be, or at least could be, incredibly intriguing because of the three Twins/White Sox games and the scenarios that could happen because of whatever happens in those games. But there is also something else for Twins fans to watch through the season’s final week, and that is the American League MVP race.

There are a lot of hitters hitting very well this year in the league, but none that are head and shoulders above the rest. I think there are ten guys whose names should be in the discussion, to some degree. In my mind, there are really only five guys that really should be in the discussion. Interestingly, those five players come from just three teams. Both Joe Mauer and Justin Morneau from the Twins should be in the discussion. The Red Sox have Dustin Pedroia and Kevin Youklis who warrant strong consideration this year. The other is Carlos Quentin of the White Sox who, despite missing the last three or four weeks of the season, still has to be in the discussion. Others that have been solid enough statistically to have their numbers mentioned include Alex Rodriguez of the Yankees, Aubrey Huff of the Orioles, Josh Hamilton of the Rangers, Miguel Cabrera of the Tigers and Grady Sizemore from Cleveland.

In my mind, the choice is easy. Even without my obviously homer-ish tendencies, I think that Justin Morneau is the choice for AL MVP. Both Phil Miller of the Pioneer Press and LaVelle E. Neal of the Star-Tribune penned articles on Justin Morneau’s MVP Candidacy over the weekend.  

Let’s start by looking at the more typical statistics to compare the favorites:

 

BA

OBP

SLG

OPS

XB Hits

RBI

Runs

Justin Morneau

310

382

518

900

73

128

93

Dustin Pedroia

324

376

492

868

70

79

116

Carlos Quentin

288

394

571

965

63

100

96

Kevin Youklis

311

384

556

940

71

107

87

Joe Mauer

329

415

448

863

40

79

95

Alex Rodriguez

304

393

581

974

68

101

103

Aubrey Huff

311

367

568

934

82

107

95

Josh Hamilton

308

374

538

912

70

124

94

Miguel Cabrera

297

356

548

905

72

125

83

Grady Sizemore

275

381

520

901

76

89

97

If you look at these more basic statistics, you have to wonder how the two Twins are in the discussion. Morneau leads the league in RBI, a statistic many voters put a lot of value upon. Valuable hitters drive in runs, particularly in big spots. I think it is important to look at more than just home runs, so I put extra base hits in the conversation. If you go by that, you understand why Aubrey Huff is mentioned, and again have to wonder why Joe Mauer is included. If OPS is your favorite statistic to show value (getting on base and total bases are important), then Alex Rodriguez is the clear winner. Again, if you just look at these numbers, you can lump all ten of them together and it would be impossible to really pick a winner. So, we have to look a little deeper, at some more advanced statistical analysis.

 

RC

Clutch

WS

WPA

VORP

Justin Morneau

124

13.5

28

4.1

51.6

Dustin Pedroia

105

-4.6

23

3.2

59.8

Carlos Quentin

102

3.6

24

3.9

51.3

Kevin Youklis

111

13.2

24

1.6

49.7

Joe Mauer

98

2.6

27

4.6

52.5

Alex Rodriguez

93

-13.2

23

0.3

65.7

Aubrey Huff

117

2.8

23

2.4

62

Josh Hamilton

114

2.4

27

3.8

57.4

Miguel Cabrera

111

2.5

19

3.8

49.4

Grady Sizemore

123

-1.1

27

3.5

67

Alright, here are some other statistics, four at The Hardball Times, Baseball Prospectus and Fan Graphs.

·         Runs Created shows Justin Morneau at the top of the list, one point ahead of Grady Sizemore, and significantly ahead of the rest of the pack.

·         Clutch is obviously something that shows value, and again, Justin Morneau is at the top of the list, with Kevin Youklis the only one even close.

·         Justin Morneau is also at the top of the Win Shares list, which does factor in defense.

·         Win Probability Added obviously shows which hitters consistently come up big in important situations. Morneau comes in second in that category. Two whom? Teammate Joe Mauer has a big lead in that category.

·         Some will say that Value Over Replacement Player is important to the league MVP discussion. I do think that it has to be considered, but at the same time, the league MVP award is not a position ranking, it’s a league award. That said, this statistic again shows me that Grady Sizemore has been very good on a team that has played quite well down the stretch, although too late. Really, each of the players is doing well in this category. Of course, at 1B, there are more players who do well, so to still have a VORP that high is very impressive.

SUMMARY

Again, I wanted to look at as many names as I could to make sure that my belief that Justin Morneau should be the 2008 American League Most Valuable Player. Everyone has their favorite statistics, so I wanted to look at several that people can use to try to get a feel for each. I don’t want to let any one statistic be the reason to pick a player. However, in my mind, an MVP should:

·         Play most of his team’s games. (I think that all of the above names fit this category, you could argue that Joe Mauer and Carlos Quentin could be deducted a little bit based on games played.)

·         Be a hitter unless something absolutely crazy happens (I don’t care how great Cliff Lee was, he only pitched in about one-fifth of Cleveland’s games. I don’t care how many Saves Francisco Rodriguez racked up this season, he pitched in less than half of his team’s games, and if you want to get into it, he wasn’t even one of the game’s best closers).

·         Be from a contending team, or at least a very good team. I don’t subscribe to the thought that an MVP has to be from a playoff team or a division winner, only that his team be in contention most of the season. (That really eliminates the likes of Alex Rodriguez, Aubrey Huff, Josh Hamilton, Miguel Cabrera and Grady Sizemore.)

My Vote (with a week to go in the season)

1.)    Justin Morneau, 1B, Minnesota Twins

2.)    Kevin Youklis, Boston Red Sox

3.)    Dustin Pedroia, 2B, Boston Red Sox

4.)    Joe Mauer, C, Minnesota Twins

5.)    Grady Sizemore, OF, Cleveland Indians

6.)    Carlos Quentin, OF, Chicago White Sox

7.)    Aubrey Huff, OF, Baltimore Orioles

8.)    Josh Hamilton, OF, Texas Rangers

9.)    Cliff Lee, SP, Cleveland Indians

10.)                        Alex Rodriguez, 3B, New York Yankees

 

What do you think? Any thoughts?

 

With that, please feel free to e-mail me at sethspeaksnet@hotmail.com,

September 21, 2008 Posted by Seth | Alex Rodriguez, Aubrey Huff, Carlos Quentin, Cliff Lee, Dustin Pedroia, Francisco Rodriguez, Grady Sizemore, Joe Mauer, Josh Hamilton, Justin Morneau, Kevin Youklis, Miguel Cabrera, Minnesota Twins | | 7 Comments

One Intriguing Week

The Twins beat the Rays on Sunday afternoon to split the four game series with the playoff-bound Tampa Bay Rays. After getting starts of 0.2 Innings from Glen Perkins on Thursday night, 1.2 innings from Nick Blackburn on Friday night, and 4.1 innings from Kevin Slowey on Saturday afternoon, Francisco Liriano gave the Twins exactly what they needed. He went seven very strong innings of one run ball. The Twins bat provided enough offense. Jose Mijares pitched a perfect 8th, and Joe Nathan pitched a perfect ninth inning for the save. The Twins absolutely needed to win that game. In part, to have a positive feel going into the final week of the season. In reality, because the White Sox beat the Royals 3-0 behind seven shutout innings from John Danks and a two run homer from Paul Konerko. That means that when the Twins and White Sox start their three game series at Metrodome on Tuesday night, the Twins will be trailing by 2.5 games. So, what does that mean the Twins must do in the series to give themselves a chance? (Warning – you may need the Twins and White Sox day off tomorrow too, just to figure out what all of the below says!!)

Games Remaining

·         Minnesota Twins – vs Chicago White Sox (3), vs Kansas City Royals (3)

·         Chicago White Sox – @ Minnesota Twins (3), vs Cleveland Indians (3), vs Detroit Tigers (1, if necessary)

The Scenarios

1.)    Twins Sweep White Sox à Twins (87-72), White Sox (86-72)

a.       Twins Sweep Royals à (90-72)

                                                              i.      White Sox have to sweep Cleveland AND beat Detroit to create one game “playoff” versus Twins

b.      Twins win 2 out of 3 versus Royals à (89-73)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division by sweeping Cleveland and beating Detroit.

                                                            ii.      White Sox can win two out of three against Cleveland and beat Detroit to create a one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                          iii.      Twins win division if White Sox win two out of three against Cleveland but lose to Detroit.

                                                          iv.      Twins win division if White Sox win just one out of three.

c.       Twins win 1 out of 3 à (88-74)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division by sweeping Cleveland.

                                                            ii.      If White Sox win two out of three against Cleveland and beat Detroit, they win the division.

                                                          iii.      If White Sox win two out of three against Cleveland and lose to Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                          iv.      If White Sox win one out of three against Cleveland and beat Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                            v.      If White Sox win one out of three against Cleveland and lose to Detroit, Twins win division.

                                                          vi.      If White Sox swept by Cleveland, Twins win the division.

d.      Twins Swept by Royals (87-75)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division by winnings at least two games against Cleveland.

                                                            ii.      If White Sox win one out of three against Cleveland and beat Detroit, White Sox win division.

                                                          iii.      If White Sox win one out of three against Cleveland and lose to Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                          iv.      If White Sox swept by Cleveland and beat Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                            v.      If White Sox swept by Cleveland and lose to Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

2.)    Twins Win Two out of Three against White Sox à White Sox (87-71), Twins (86-73)

a.       Twins Sweep Royals à (89-73)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division by sweeping Cleveland.

                                                            ii.      White Sox win division by winning two out of three against Cleveland and beating Detroit.

                                                          iii.      If White Sox win two out of three but lose to Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins

                                                          iv.      If White Sox win one out of three and beat Detroit, on-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                            v.      Twins win division if Cleveland sweeps White Sox.

b.      Twins Win 2 out of 3 versus Royals à (88-74)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division by winning at least two out of three against Cleveland.

                                                            ii.      If White Sox win one out of three and beat Detroit, White Sox win division.

                                                          iii.      If White Sox win one out of three and lose to Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                          iv.      If White Sox get swept by Cleveland but beat Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                            v.      If White Sox get swept by Cleveland and lose to Detroit, Minnesota wins division.

c.       Twins Win 1 out of 3 versus Royals à (87-75)

                                                              i.      White Sox win division if they win at least one game against Cleveland.

                                                            ii.      If White Sox swept by Cleveland and beat Detroit, one-game playoff versus Twins.

                                                          iii.      If White Sox swept by Cleveland and lose to Detroit, Twins win division.

d.      Twins Swept by Royals à (86-76)

                                                              i.      White Sox win the division.

3.)    Twins Win One out of three against White Sox à White Sox (88-70), Twins (75-74)

a.       Twins Must Sweep Kansas City AND White Sox must be swept by Cleveland and lose to Detroit to force a one-game playoff with the Twins.

4.)    Twins Swept by White Sox à White Sox (89-69), Twins (84-75)

a.       White Sox will have clinched the division title Thursday night. NO opportunity to still make the playoffs.

 

Please note that this is not official. I am, in fact, certain that I may be missing a scenario or two. But I think it illustrates the situation pretty clearly for the final week.

 

Any thoughts?

PODCAST UPDATE – I will be participating again in Marty Andrade’s Weekly Twins Podcast tonight (Sunday) at 8:00. You can listen live from 8-9 at www.BlogTalkRadio.com/Andrade. There is a chat room, so you can ask questions that way. You can also Call-In if you would like. I think it will be a very interesting show. There is plenty of Twins talk to be discussed, so if you get a chance, listen live, otherwise, you will be able to hear it the rest of the week at the same site.  

With that, please feel free to e-mail me at sethspeaksnet@hotmail.com,

September 21, 2008 Posted by Seth | Minnesota Twins, Podcast | | 2 Comments