Sunday Game Reports

9 Aug

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If you missed yesterday’s Live Game Chat, please check it out here as there were a lot of great Twins-related questions asked. I’d be curious your thoughts. I’d also point out that there were several interesting poll questions, or at least some interesting poll results, so check them out.

SethSpeaks.net Weekly Minnesota Twins Podcast Tonight at 9:00 central time.  The first guest will be Pat Neshek. It’ll be good to get an update from him. I’m hoping for a couple of other guests, so be sure to check it out.

Let’s see… The Twins lost a tough game on Friday night due to some bad calls and subsequent let down. But then on Saturday, hope was restored when Carl Pavano pitched so well in his Twins debut and the bats were able to beat Justin Verlander. With Scott Baker facing Jarrod Washburn on Sunday, the Twins had a legitimate shot to win a series on the road against the team at the top of their division.

Neither Baker or Washburn threw well at all, but the Twins still had an opportunity to win. Baker was just fine through three shutout innings. The Twins gave him a 3-0 lead, but he decided it made sense to give the lead back. He gave up a long homer to Marcus Thames and then gave up hit after hit after hit. The interesting thing is that as he started getting the ball down in the strike zone, he started giving up the hits. That is opposite of what we are typically told. He got out of the fourth inning down 4-3, and then he came back for the fifth inning and gave up a two run homer to Miguel Cabrera which ended his day. Six runs in just 4.1 innings. He gave up nine hits. Again, it was a case of something going wrong and Baker not being able to be strong enough to get past it.

Bobby Keppel came in and went 2.2 shutout innings. He gave up four hits, but a big double play and other loud outs helped the Twins get to the bottom of the 8th in a tie game. But Matt Guerrier came in and gave up two runs on two hits and an intentional walk. To be fair, neither hit was hit hard at all, so I think Guerrier did alright. That is hard to be upset about because there wasn’t anything that could be done.

The offense again provided plenty of fire power that a win was possible with even decent pitching. Michael Cuddyer was clearly the offensive star. He was 4-5 with three runs scored and three RBI. He had a single, his 24th double and his 18th home run going into his final at bat. Needing a triple for the cycle, he hit a second long home run (his 19th) which cut the lead to 8-7. Mike Redmond had three wimpy hits to shallow right field. Orlando Cabrera extended his hitting streak to 18 games with a single to left. Delmon Young backed up Cuddyer’s first homer with his fourth homer. Cuddyer’s blast cleared the centerfield wall. Young’s blast went much further than the ten foot difference that was announced. Alexi Casilla had a very good game. He was 2-3 with a two run triple. He also made a couple of spectacular plays on defense.

MINOR LEAGUE REPORT

Sunday – SethSpeaks.net Hitter of the Day – Michael Harrington, Beloit Snappers

Sunday – SethSpeaks.net Pitcher of the Day – Santos Arias, Ft. Myers Miracle – Matt Fox, Rochester Red Wings

ROCHESTER REPORT

Sunday –Rochester 2, Louisville 7 – If you only look at the final score, it’s hard to believe what a good, close game this was. Yohan Pino had his best start of the year. He gave up just two runs (1 earned) on three hits and a walk in eight innings. He struck out ten. He had a shutout threw six innings. But with the score tied at two going into the ninth, the Red Wings put Tim Lahey in, and you just knew what would happen next. Lahey gave up five runs on seven hits and got just two outs. Jason Jones came in to record the final out. Dustin Martin his this 12th and 13th doubles of the season and drove in both runs. Steve Tolleson hit his 16th double.   

ROCKCAT RECAP

Sunday – New Britain 4, Akron 1 – Matt Fox had his best start in some time. The righty went seven innings and gave up just one run. He allowed five hits, walked one and struck out five. Frank Mata got two outs in the eighth and gave up a hit. Anthony Slama came in for the final four outs. He struck out three for his 25th save. Brian Dinkelman went 2-4 with two RBI. Brandon Roberts was 1-3 with two walks. Steve Singleton hit his first AA home run in the ninth inning.  

MIRACLE MEMOS

Sunday – Ft. Myers 6, Sarasota 1 Santos Arias has really taken well to his return to a starting role. In this game, he went seven innings and gave up just one run on three hits. He walks two and struck out five. Henry Arias threw two perfect innings in relief. Mark Dolenc went 3-4 with a walk and two stolen bases (which gives him 22 on the year). Ben Revere, Alejandro Machado and Joe Benson each went 2-4 with a walk. Revere stole his 36th base. Jair Fernandez went 2-5 with his 12th double and four RBI.  

SNAPPERS SNIPPETS

Sunday – Beloit 9, Cedar Rapids 7 – Rainy conditions meant this game was delayed a couple of hours, but they got it in. Michael Harrington went 4-5 with his 30th double and four RBI. Dominic De La Osa went 3-4 with a walk and his seventh stolen base. Nate Hanson was 2-4 with his 17th double. Bruce Pugh made the start for the Snappers. He gave up three runs (2 earned) on six hits (two homers). He walked one and struck out three. Blake Martin came in and struck out three in 2.1 perfect innings. Thomas Wright pitched a scoreless eighth inning. In the ninth, he gave up four runs on three hits and two walks, and got just one out. Billy Bullock struck out two of the next three batters out to record his third save.  

E-TWINS EXTRAS

Sunday – Elizabethton 4, Bluefield 6 Kane Holbrooks made his first start of the year. It didn’t go so well. In just 2.1 innings, he gave up six runs on nine hits and a walk. Brad Stillings then threw 3.2 scoreless innings. He gave up two hits and a walk. Martire Garcia came out for the final three innings and gave up no runs on one hit and one walk. He struck out three. Derek McCallum returned to the lineup and went 2-4 with his tenth double.  

GCL TWINS GOINGS ON

Sunday – GCL Twins 5, GCL Reds 4 Adrian Salcedo struggled a little bit for the first time this season, but he got the win to improve to 3-1. He gave up three runs on ten hits in five innings. He walked none and struck out five. Kelvin Mota gave up a run on three hits in two innings. Zach See gave up two hits, but no runs, over two innings. Brian Bistagne went 2-3 with a walk and his third double. Daniel Santana went 2-5.   

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30 Responses to “Sunday Game Reports”

  1. NOYB August 10, 2009 at 8:19 am #

    “Baker was just fine through three shutout innings. The Twins gave him a 3-0 lead, but he decided it made sense to give the lead back.”

    What a totally idiotic thing to write. Period.

  2. mike wants wins August 10, 2009 at 8:34 am #

    Seth, tough series. La Velle’s piece on Sunday about next year was interesting. I’ve never seen La Velle so agressive in his writing about the Twins and their action/inaction as this year. I hope they are paying attention.

  3. gobbledygookguy August 10, 2009 at 8:35 am #

    nice to see gardy make a sarcastic attempt to be responible for something that happened on the field. a little tweak of punto for again failing to get a bunt down but he then has to hammer harris for his positioning. he and the coaches were so busy they can’t be expected to actually coach.
    it’s about time gardy man’s up and admits he’s having a bad year. very basic stuff checking the fielders before an inning to make sure they are where you want them. they must have been busy refilling the sunflower seeds.

  4. mike wants wins August 10, 2009 at 9:12 am #

    I agree, Gardy wasn’t taking accountability. He was ripping Harris in a backhanded manor. He did rip Punto, though. That was interesting (maybe).

  5. Bill in Sarasota August 10, 2009 at 9:46 am #

    Harris has a great history against Washburn and Punto does not.

    Gardy starts Punto since he played there the night before. Huh?

    Gardy does not play the percentages and it usually kills the Twins
    - Punto instead of Harris yesterday (If Harris started Punto would then be available for defensive purposes late in the game).
    - Redmond vs RH instead of LH pitcher in Cleveland

    These obvious mistakes have cost the Twins multiple one run games this year. It’s like the Twins have one arm tied behind their back before the game starts.

  6. Dom Dog August 10, 2009 at 9:52 am #

    Most of the time I have not minded seeing Gardy make comments to the media about players not getting the job done during a game. I usually just chalk it up to him being asked about it and him giving his honest opinion. I see nothing wrong with that, and it’s not like he’s saying something that the player(s) probably didn’t already hear about in the dugout.

    However, the comments yesterday really bothered me. Mainly with him saying it was his fault, but then proceeding to blame Harris for not knowing better after being with the Club for almost 2 years now. It definitely came off as him more passing the buck for not noticing it before the inning started than him actually taking the blame for it. Shame on Gardy. If Jerry White can take the time between each at bat to position the outfielders the way they want, is it too much to ask that the coaches make sure the infielders are where they want them too?

    I don’t like where this team is heading. From Gardy’s comments yesterday to Morneau calling out Casilla a week ago or so. That is NOT leadership. That is someone getting frustrated as they see the season slipping away, not being able to do anything about it, and blaming it on someone else. Very disappointed in both of those guys for that. Morneau gets some more slack because I have not heard him do that before, but I hope it doesn’t become a habit (ala Torii Hunter).

  7. TT August 10, 2009 at 10:54 am #

    “That is NOT leadership. That is someone getting frustrated as they see the season slipping away, not being able to do anything about it, and blaming it on someone else.”

    I agree, but I don’t remember Hunter making his points to reporters. He ended up in a brawl with Morneau because he made his point face-to-face.

    There are times when I see these comments from Gardy and ask “What would TK do?” I think he would DO something, not complain to reporters.

    Repeating the mantra that “we play the game right” is not the same as actually playing the game right. The Twins have not been playing Twins baseball and that is not the player’s fault.

    I seem to remember a few times when TK made a point of having players out for extra practice on a day after they won because he didn’t like some of the mental mistakes he saw. And it wasn’t just the guys who made the mistakes, it was the whole team. Losing wasn’t the only consequence for the players if their teammates screwed up. The players all knew which of their teammates were responsible for the extra work.

    I am not in the “fire Gardy” camp, but I do think some of the problems the team has can be traced to the manager.

  8. travistalks August 10, 2009 at 11:23 am #

    wow Gardy has won 4 division titles in 7 years on the job ask Pittsburgh what they wouldnt do for that kind of success. He would be out of work for 5 minutes if we fired him. Before you all hit send think about it a minute.

    • Kunza August 10, 2009 at 2:42 pm #

      Well Kevin McHale won a few championships as a player in Boston… but he sucked as a coach and GM

  9. Funkytown August 10, 2009 at 11:51 am #

    What’s the story on Pino? Wasn’t ‘good enough’ to start in AA (again) this year, works his way up the ladder, gets promoted and is pitching pretty well as a starter in AAA…I know he used to be a skinny kid, now is 6′ 190 ….my saying for him used to be “all he does is get outs/wins”…seems to be advancing past some others in the system. And Lord knows, the pitching has been milked for all its worth this year in the upper levels…tho I still don’t get why Slama is toiling at AA.

  10. Dom Dog August 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm #

    Travis,

    I don’t think everyone here is advocating to fire Gardy (I’m not at least). I was just very disappointed in the so called “leadership” that he and Morneau have provided in recent weeks. That kind of stuff bothers me SOO much more than the actual losing of a ballgame. Everybody loses sometimes, but not everybody has to blame others for the loss. You are a team, so suck it up and win OR lose as a team. Morneau should not use his “credibility” as an MVP and All-Star to call out teammates in the media. I suppose it would go over well in the clubhouse if Casilla called out Morneau for having a crummy game yesterday?? And if you are the MANAGER of a team (meaning you have the official title of the leader), then you SHOULD take all of the blame for the loss, don’t start to take the blame and then proceed to stomp on another player for not reading your mind (Harris SHOULD have been playing the line, but it is the coaches job to make sure he does what he is supposed to do).

    Sorry…I’ve been through plenty of losing Twins seasons. I can handle that. What I have an issue with is when the character of those people begin to show, and it isn’t what I hoped it was. I’m not saying that they are awful people with crappy character, I just don’t care for what they’ve done recently. I hope we don’t have to see it come out again…

  11. Funkytown August 10, 2009 at 12:31 pm #

    Pittsburgh and KC….ugh…Twins success gets compared to the recent history of those 2 franchise too often.

    It’s been 2 seasons, and almost 3 at this rate, since the Twins won a division. They have underachieved too often, even when they had elite players in FIVE positions(starter/closer/CF/C/1B) in the past several years.

    I don’t want to compare them to Pittburgh/KC..I want them to win. Period.

    But they don’t do the ‘little things’ right any more. They miss cutoffs, bumble around in the infield and outfield, suffer from bad baserunning, and don’t bunt or hit/run all that well.

    That mystique is gone. The players and coaches need to come together and right the ship. Not point fingers at each other.

  12. Funkytown August 10, 2009 at 12:56 pm #

    Seth, I believe it was posted in the Sunday chat that the belief is Angel Morales will repeat Beloit.

    2 hits today, hovering near .260 now..Do you think a strong finish could bump him up to FM next year?

  13. mike wants wins August 10, 2009 at 1:22 pm #

    I hope at some point the Twins are more aggressive in promoting their prospects. IF Morales repeats Beloit, I hope he’s sent up to FM faster next year, rather than sloooooooowly waiting for the half season or some other arbitrary timeframe.

  14. Bill in Sarasota August 10, 2009 at 1:42 pm #

    Travis,

    Let me know if you thought Punto was a better match-up against Washburn than Harris.

    Or Redmond is better against RHP than vs. LHP.

    These were no-brainer decisions that Gardy messed up. Even Redmond spoke up about it.

    Remember that Gardy’s relationship with Garza is why Garza is in TB. Even if Garza was 100% at fault Gardy should have made it clear to the front office he could handle him (maturity). Not many pitchers fly through the minors like Garza did. They’re rare and need to be protected. Have you noticed Bucholtz (Bos) and Hughes (NY) were not traded even though they both had terrible years last year.

    No one said to fire Gardy but he’s not acting like a top level mgr.

  15. Kunza August 10, 2009 at 2:41 pm #

    I am advocating a change at manager! Gardenhire is flat out terrible lately. It is really hard to defend anything that he does anymore.

    I wonder if his words are starting to fall on deaf ears? You don’t think for one moment that some players are pissed because Nick Punto and Mike Redmond and their balmy .210 averages are playing instead of guys like Brendan Harris and Morales? At least those 2 can hit the ball to the fence!

    Defend him all you want but it wasn’t hard to win with Santana at the top of the rotation. I think we are starting to see Gardenhire’s true colors come out now.

  16. Funkytown August 10, 2009 at 2:52 pm #

    4-5 day for Angel Morales. Now batting in the 2 spot, up to .263. GO KID!

  17. TT August 10, 2009 at 3:35 pm #

    I will be surprised if Morales isn’t a Fort Myers next year. It isn’t how you start the year, but how you end it. If he isn’t moved up it will have more to do with who isn’t ready to move up to New Britain than how he does the rest of this year. It think Hicks is a more likely candidate to be back at Beloit, but that would surprise me as well.

  18. TT August 10, 2009 at 3:40 pm #

    “These were no-brainer decisions that Gardy messed up.”

    I think when someone describes these kinds of decisions being a “no-brainer” it is usually the speaker whose brain isn’t working. A manager makes very few lineup decisions based only on one game. The ones that do are usually not very successful.

  19. Bill in Sarasota August 10, 2009 at 4:27 pm #

    TT,

    You have blind allegience to Gardy.

    It sounds like you can’t second guess Gardy because he won a few division titles with Santana, Radke, 2006 Liriano, Mauer, Morneau, Nathan,……..

    All managers try to get match-ups in their favor (they’re supposed to manage the game/series/season).

    Yes Gardy had to look at the Cleveland series and access which game Mauer needed a rest. Let’s see which game is best for match-ups – oh forget about it – I’ll start Mauer the first two games and then play Redmond.

    Was Punto so hot that Gardy couldn’t dare take him out for one game? Answer = No.
    Punto 3 for 16 vs. Washburn
    Harris 6 for 13 vs. Washburn
    With Crede out, this was a perfect opportunity to get Harris a start.

    Match-ups are conducted on an at bat basis late in games. See bullpens and pitch hitters in almost any close game.

    You need to take off those rose tinted glasses. It affects your vision and they don’t look good on you.

  20. Matt August 10, 2009 at 5:12 pm #

    Kunza,
    “. . . it wasn’t hard to win with Santana at the top of the rotation. I think we are starting to see Gardenhire’s true colors come out now.”

    If it isn’t hard to win with Santana at the top of the rotation, then how come Santana has never gone to the playoffs with any manager but Gardenhire? Why is it that Santana’s old team is outperforming his new team while Mets fans are complaining about their depleted farm system?

    Winning is never easy and you sell Gardenhire short when you suggest that anyone could win with Santana.

  21. Michael M August 10, 2009 at 6:08 pm #

    The problem with x should have been in instead of y because y would have made the play that x goofed is highly flawed. It assumes that the play would have unfolded in the same manner with the only change being y instead of x. The game and life are so nuanced that other factors would also have changed as well. In essence, the butterfly effect.

    Be that as it may, if y gives us a better chance of winning against a certain pitcher than x, then y should have been in the game from the onset. This carp certainly has legitimacy.

    In the end, our team is too thin and does not have enough horses to win it this year.

  22. TT August 10, 2009 at 6:20 pm #

    “You have blind allegience to Gardy.”

    Bill – you sound like you are either blind or don’t bother to read. Some of my comments here on Gardy are highly critical.

    Your “explanation” for my disagreement with you appears to have about as much depth and substance as your critique of Gardy.

    Apparently, every decision is a “no-brainer” with you.

  23. Bill in Sarasota August 10, 2009 at 7:08 pm #

    TT,

    Obviously you don’t want to address the two points that I made.
    One point was echoed by Redmond.
    The other point was backed by statistics (Harris/Punto vs Washburn). Even Gardy admitted he was going to DH Harris because of his past history vs Washburn until Mauer needed to DH.

    Your so-called point “A manager makes very few lineup decisions based only on one game.” is no point since these points were based on upcoming starting opposing pitchers (LH, LH, RH in Cleve) and Washburn in Detroit and therefore a chance to plan or manage your starting lineups for the week. With your logic you could never second guess a starting lineup.

    • TT August 10, 2009 at 9:25 pm #

      “Obviously you don’t want to address the two points that I made.”

      That is your point? That the only thing Gardy should reasonably consider is which of Harris or Punto has a better record in less than 20 at bats against Washburn? And the only question of when Redmond should start is whether the pitcher that day is left-handed or right handed? Those are both obviously factors, they are also obviously only a subset of the considerations Gardy has to take into account. Which was my point.

  24. Joe August 10, 2009 at 7:53 pm #

    Baseball Prospectus included 2 Twins Prospects in the Monday 10 pack.

    August 10, 2009
    Future Shock
    Monday Ten Pack

    by Kevin Goldstein

    “David Bromberg, RHP, Twins (High-A Fort Myers)
    Despite a losing record last year at Low-A Beloit and a 4.44 ERA, Bromberg entered the year as a solid prospect, as he had also led the Midwest League with 177 strikeouts. He’s not striking out hitters at the same rate this year, but he’s a much better pitcher. With a complete-game three-hit shutout on Friday, the big, beefy righty is now 11-1 with a 2.44 ERA in the Florida State League, giving up just 104 hits in 125 1/3 innings while striking out 113 and walking 50. His control still needs work, but his secondary stuff is much improved this year, as most project him as a solid big-league starter in the end.

    Angel Morales, OF, Twins (Low-A Beloit)
    A third-round pick in 2007, Morales entered this season with high expectations after leading the Appalachian League with 15 home runs last year, but after batting just .140 in June, he entered the second half of the season barely hitting his weight during his full-season debut. Even so, scouts admitted that they were intrigued by Morales’ tools, and since then, something has clearly clicked, as after going 5-for-9 over the weekend with two doubles and a home run, Morales is now batting .376 in his last 30 games with a .647 slugging percentage. Just 19 years old with above-average power and speed, he’s well on his way to regaining his prospect status.”

    This does not include his 4 for 5 bid today. He is not hitting .263. Great for a guy who barley broke .120 in late June.

  25. Matt August 10, 2009 at 8:42 pm #

    Can anyone explain the logic behind the White Sox claiming Alex Rios and his horrible contract? They now owe $60 million through 2014 to a guy with a career OPS+ of 104 who averages 16 HR (career high of 24). And this is his age 28 season, so he is most likely already at his prime–not heading into it.

    I thought the Peavy trade was a mistake for them considering the injury risk and likelihood that his numbers won’t translate from pitcher friendly Petco to the AL, but now it seems like they’re just burning money.

    Lavelle wrote about the threat the White Sox might pose over the next couple of years, but I have to think they are financially crippled now, not to mention they gave up four prospects in the Peavy deal.

    Not that I’m complaining. Hell, maybe they’ll go after Barry Zito next.

    • Joe August 11, 2009 at 6:14 am #

      I agree. They are not great moves. They just added over 120 million dollars of pay roll with a pitcher who has made less then 15 starts this year and a type B outfielder. Credit they are big names but they just took on soo much pay roll that it takes them out of the running for future free agency.

      Expect a 2011 White Sox Team to be centered around

      Peavy 30, Danks 28, Buehrle 33, Floyd 29 rotation

      Conerstones Gordon Beckham 24, Jarred Mitchell 24, Alex Riosm 30, Alexi Ramirez 30.

  26. Joe August 11, 2009 at 6:32 am #

    David Bromberg is also being recognized by Baseball America. Seems to me he is a real prospect?

    Monday’s Dish: Bromberg’s Fastball Impresses

    Posted Aug. 10, 2009 1:53 pm by J.J. Cooper
    Filed under: Daily Dish

    Our Best Tools results won’t begin to be posted until later this week, but we can give a little sneak peek–the best pitching prospect in the Florida State League is not who you might think.

    Kyle Drabek pitched very well in his time in the FSL, but a majority of managers picked Fort Myers’ David Bromberg as the league’s top pitching prospect. Drabek actually got votes for the best fastball, best breaking ball and the best command, but some of the same managers who voted for Drabek on other categories picked Bromberg as the league’s best pitching prospect.

    Bromberg is 11-1, 2.44 in 125 innings this year, but he wasn’t just picked by managers because of his stats.

    “He controls the game very well. He pounds the strike zone with three average to above average pitches. He dials up his game. He can run it up to 95 mph and pitches at 91 to 92,” Lakeland manager Andy Barkett said.

    At his best, Bromberg has been dominant. A 2005 32nd-round pick who signed for $40,000 in 2006 as a draft-and-follow, he led the minors with 177 strikeouts in 2008.

    He’s had similar success this year at times. He struck out 12 and walked only one in six innings against Brevard County on May 30 and he struck out nine in a complete-game shutout against Charlotte on Friday. But he’s not close to being a finished product yet. He sometimes struggles to command his fastball and usually actually has better command of his breaking ball and his changeup than his fastball. But his fastball is good enough to make hitters worry about it even when he is struggling to throw it for strikes. And when he gets in trouble, managers are impressed with his ability to bear down.

    “Bromberg is an ice in the veins kind of guy. Even when he’s in trouble you can’t really tell anything is going wrong,” Barkett said.

  27. mike wants wins August 11, 2009 at 8:47 am #

    Maybe the White Sox are trying to win now, when they still have some of their other expensive players. I know as a Twin$ fan, that is a foreigh concept, but that would be my guess.

    As for Peavy, it might be worth the shot. I think it is waaaay too much to pay Rios, but remember, instead of facing the excellent pitchers in the AL East, he now gets to face the Twins, Cleveland, and KC pitchers….

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