Comeback Twins… and MAUER

20 Aug

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Two days in a row, the Twins have fallen behind in the early innings. On Tuesday, it was Carl Pavano. On Wednesday, it was Scott Baker. But on each night, the Twins had a big inning and made a comeback complete. Baker was able to work into the 6th inning, and then Jose Mijares came in and put forth his best effort of the year. He immediately got a much-needed double play to end the 6th inning. He then was perfect through the 7th and 8th innings before Joe Nathan completed the game with a scoreless ninth. The win puts the Twins back to 5.5 games behind the division-leading Tigers.  

JOE MAUER – Everyone is talking about him, putting his numbers this year (and his career), up against the greats of the game. And rightfully so. In my approximately 25 years of really following baseball, I have never seen a baseball season like Joe Mauer is having, not with the Twins. Barry Bonds is the best hitter I have seen. Albert Pujols is right there. But Mauer’s added power, continued on-base skills and flirtation with .400 is something you just don’t see from a catcher. Asked yesterday what this means for the odds of the Twins signing Mauer to an extension, I insist that this is really putting the Twins in a bad spot. Simply put, they can’t trade Mauer, not with a new, publicly funded stadium opening next year. They don’t want him to become a free agent after 2010 or the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets representatives will put a contract in front of him with a Blank before the Years and another Blank right after the dollar sign. So, they really need to sign him this offseason, but the fact that he’s having an historic season means that his value is as high as it will ever be.

So what do they do? What should the Twins offer? I truly believe that Mauer would prefer to spend his career with the Twins. However, at no point since the Twins drafted him first overall has he accepted a “hometown discount.” Again, if he becomes a free agent, you have to assume that those aforementioned big spending teams will consider offering Mauer eight, or even ten, year deals. They could offer as much as $25-28 million per year. Could the Twins sign him now, or early this offseason for something closer to six years and $126 million? Is that fair for both sides?

The Twins are in a horrible spot. If they don’t come up with huge dollars, and Mauer were to walk, they would be considered cheap. However, the additional revenues brought in by Mauer could make up for some of his salary, right? Is it possible that the right “baseball decision” would be to trade Mauer? Imagine the package of current young talent and big-time prospects the team could get for him. Adding several possible impact players for one makes sense, if the package is correct. The Twins have to remember that Mauer is a catcher, and with that there is the normal reduction in performance once the catcher is on the wrong side of 30. Much of Mauer’s value comes from the fact that he is a catcher. He is not as valuable if he DHs.

And finally, I am always feeling the need to write this paragraph, and I don’t know why. Is anyone else annoyed by some people’s need to bash Justin Morneau in an attempt to make Joe Mauer look better. First, Joe Mauer looks just fine all by himself. Secondly, Justin Morneau is a great player. I understand that there are many more strong offensive 1B than catchers, but that only means that Joe Mauer is better than an average catcher than Justin Morneau is better than the average 1B. The fact is that that Twins are very lucky to have both.

And they are lucky to have Denard Span and Jason Kubel. Those four players are all top 10-15 players in the league. Michael Cuddyer is having a very good year. The Twins have five very good hitters in there lineup, but it is a great reminder that no one player or no five players alone can win. It takes a 25 man roster, and with injuries and such, it really takes the entire 40 man roster.

So… what do you do about Mauer? It’s easy to say “Sign him!”, but tell me how, and be sure to think about how it affects other decisions for the team.

SEND QUESTIONS

I’d like to welcome everyone to send me two True or False, or Yes or No, questions. I will answer them for tomorrow’s blog! I did this one other time and said people could ask up to three questions, and I had to post three separate blogs. So, send your questions to me and I will answer them.  

MINOR LEAGUE REPORT

Wednesday – SethSpeaks.net Hitter of the Day – Dustin Martin, Rochester Red Wings

Wednesday – SethSpeaks.net Pitcher of the Day – Yohan Pino, Rochester Red Wings

ROCHESTER REPORT

Wednesday – Game 1 – Rochester 6, Pawtucket 0 – Yohan Pino continues to impress as a AAA starter. In this game, he threw eight shutout innings. He gave up just three hits, walked on and struck out eight. Anthony Slama struck out two in his perfect ninth inning. Matt Tolbert went 3-5 with his ninth double. Danny Valencia hit his 15th and 16th doubles. Dustin Martin went 2-3 with a walk and his 21st steal. Drew Butera went 2-4.

Wednesday – Game 2 – Rochester 5, Pawtucket 1 – Jason Jones returned to the starting staff in this game. He did well. He gave up one run on four hits and two walks in seven innings. Sean Henn and Tim Lahey each threw one scoreless inning. Trevor Plouffe went 2-4 with his 20th double. Brock Peterson and Dustin Martin were also 2-4. Martin stole his 22nd base. Justin Huber went 2-5 with his 19th double.     

ROCKCAT RECAP

Wednesday – Game 1 – New Britain 5, Binghampton 7 – This game actually started the day before but was suspended. Mike McCardell started and pitched the two innings on Tuesday. He gave up one run. Frank Mata started the third inning and got just one out, but not before allowing four runs on three hits and a walk. Kyle Waldrop went the next 3.2 innings and gave up one run on three hits. Loek Van Mil gave up a run on two hits and two walks in 1.1 innings. (An observer at the game said Van Mil hit 97, and sat consistently between 94 and 96 according to the field’s radar gun.) Spencer Steedley got the final two outs. Yancarlos Ortiz went 3-4 with two RBI. Whit Robbins went 2-4 with his 19th double. Brandon Roberts went 2-5. Rene Tosoni went 1-3 with two walks.

Wednesday – Game 2 – New Britain 6, Binghampton 1 – Ryan Mullins recorded his ninth win of the season in this game. In six innings, he gave up one run on six hits. He walked none and struck out three. Alex Burnett gave up two hits and a walk, but no runs, in the 7th inning. Brandon Roberts was 2-3 with three runs scored and his 16th base. Rene Tosoni was 2-3 with his 14th home run and two RBI. Brian Dinkelman went 2-3 with his 35th double and two RBI.   

MIRACLE MEMOS

Wednesday – Ft. Myers 4, Palm Beach 3 Tyler Robertson put together another strong start. He went the first seven innings. He gave up two runs on six hits and a walk. He struck out seven. Bobby Lanigan got the 8th inning. He gave up one run on one hit. Blair Erickson recorded his 13th save with a scoreless ninth. The Miracle won despite just five hits. The big hit was a solo home run off the bat of Joe Benson in the top of the 9th that gave the Miracle the lead and eventually the win. It was his fifth homer of the year. Ben Revere stole his 40th base.  

SNAPPERS SNIPPETS

Wednesday – Beloit – No Game Scheduled.  

E-TWINS EXTRAS

Wednesday – Elizabethton – No Game Scheduled.  

GCL TWINS GOINGS ON

Wednesday – GCL Twins 3, GCL Reds 6 Eliecer Cardenas started and went just three innings. He gave up five runs (1 earned) on four hits and a walk. Raynard Doran threw two perfect innings. Jean Mijares gave up one hit over two scoreless innings. Leonardo Parra gave up an unearned run in his inning. Richard Calcano had a perfect 9th inning. The Twins managed just five hits. Kennys Vargas went 2-3 with a walk and a three run homer (his third homer of the year). Trayvone Johnson went 2-4. Nick Freitas was 1-2 with two walks.  

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37 Responses to “Comeback Twins… and MAUER”

  1. Zack August 20, 2009 at 2:06 am #

    Well, I think that 7/$134 or so would be what I’d like him to sign for, but I think he’d be worth more than that. He’s making $12.5 next year, so that would be a $10 million/year raise. Cuddyer’s making about that, and he’ll be off the books in ’11.

    I think that even with the expected Arb raises in the coming years, they could make it work. I’d hope payroll would climb up into the $85-90 million range (maybe I’m being naive here with this ownership group), and we’d have room for a nice FA or two this offseason as well.

  2. uglysimling August 20, 2009 at 3:43 am #

    It’s easy to think that we could get a massive package (Giggity) for Joe Mauer, but remember the Johan Santana trade, where we were lowballed by three major market teams… for the best pitcher in baseball!!! The same happened with Roy Halladay. I just don’t know if you can get equal value for a catcher that is having a season that is being compared to Ted Williams, Ruth, Gehrig and Joe-D. Would you trade for anything less than the five best prospects in a team’s farm system (A GOOD farm system, I might add)? I wouldn’t. And if I were a team with five good prospects, I wouldn’t give them up for Joe. Would you? I think not. He has the most value to Minnesota as a member of the Twins, not only on the field, but in a Marketing and PR standpoint as well. Unless Mauer decides to force his way out of town, there is no way Mauer gets traded, in my opinion.

  3. clutterheart August 20, 2009 at 7:56 am #

    If we didn’t have Morneau , Kubel, Nathan, Span, & Cuddy it might make sense to trade him. But we have these guys and the time to win is now.
    Spend a lot of money on Joe.
    Spend a little less money on a top line free agent starting pitcher.
    Spend even less money on a guy like Washburn.
    And win the world series next year.
    (easy for me to say!!!)

    Further

    Have we learned nothing from the KG / Santana trades?
    If you trade away a superstar for young guys you go backwards. Especially if those youngs guys don’t pan out.

    (Seth – Edited to remove unnecessary, inappropriate curse words that are no acceptable on this site!)

  4. Dome Dog August 20, 2009 at 8:04 am #

    I don’t care if he stays at catcher his entire career or not. Even if his body gives out a bit after 30, a guy who hits .330 with 25 homeruns and a .400 OBP is extremely valuable, no matter the position. The fact that he is a rock star catcher just makes him that much more amazing. Sign him and give him half of the revenue from the new ballpark for all I care :)

  5. Jesse H August 20, 2009 at 8:06 am #

    If it were the mid 90’s or earlier I would say it is possible to get a package of good/not great major league players and some top notch prospects but these days teams know they are just buying exclusive negotiating rights with a player and the package we got for Santana is the best would could expect. Based on that assumption I see no chance that trading Mauer is the right baseball decision.

    Any situation that results in Mauer not being on this team past 2010 is an indication of cheapness by the Pohlads and bad management of the team by Bill Smith. If they had signed him last offseason he probably would have signed for the mid to high teens in yearly salary. Now we are going to pay low to mid 20’s. That decision is on Billy.

    Also a note on payroll, I have done a fairly detailed analysis of payroll and revenue (http://rubechat.kfan.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=46388#p863253) and what I found is that we have capacity for a $100 million payroll using the Twins formula and only have $75 in commitments next year. The Twins have a lot of money rolling in during the coming years so if Mauer is not signed it is solely because the Pohlads are cheap.

  6. will August 20, 2009 at 8:31 am #

    Kubel and Span are in the top 10-15 players in the league?!?! I know you’re a homer, but no way are Kubel and Span among the top 10-15 players in the league. Don’t get me wrong they are GOOD players, but they aren’t GREAT. Neither player has even made an All-star game. I’ll give you that Kubel and Span are among the top 10-15 players in the American League Central Division, but not in all of Major League Baseball.

    Joe Nathan, on the other hand, would have to be among the top 10-15 players in the Majors.

    • will August 20, 2009 at 8:53 am #

      15 AL players (not including pitchers) I’d take over Span and Kubel, and in no particular order:

      1. Miguel Cabrera
      2. Ichiro
      3. Kevin Youkilis
      4. Dustin Pedroia
      5. Josh Hamilton
      6. Evan Longoria
      7. Mark Texiera
      8. Derek Jeter
      9. A-Rod
      10. Nick Markakis
      11. Grady Sizemore
      12. Curtis Granderson
      13. Torii Hunter
      14. Vlad Guerrero
      15. Ian Kinsler

      *Note this list doesn’t include NL players like Pujols, Utley, Howard, Hanley Ramirez, Berkman.

  7. Lonestar August 20, 2009 at 8:34 am #

    The Twins have three advantages:
    1. The hometown afiliation including the only organization Joe has known
    2. The only team that can offer him a 4+ year extension now
    3. The only team that can bump his 2010 salary

    With the new stadium coming on line, they have lots of room under their arbitrary, self-imposed salary cap.

    Start with 4/$80. Be willing to offer 4/$104. Emphasize dollars, not years. Extend the years by vesting option(s). I would eventually go 6/$126.

    I think the key to signing Mauer (besides reasonable compensation by MLB standards) is showing the will to win. That means adding two starting pitchers and at least one IF.

    I would target JJ Hardy for the IF.

    Rich Harden is the most talented free agent pitcher. I am non-plussed by the other free agent pitchers with the possible exception of Duchscherer.

    If it came down to trading, there is only one team with the salary capacity and young talent to take on Mauer. That’s the BoSox. And they don’t necessarily need a catcher. They certainly won’t bid against themselves.

    • peterbb18 August 20, 2009 at 6:51 pm #

      Lonestar, the Redsox are one team in desperate need of a catcher. Varichak(sp) need is going over the hill fast!

  8. Twins on Twins August 20, 2009 at 8:35 am #

    When I saw Van Mil in 2 games in New Britain last weekend, he was only hitting 93-94 consistently (which is still pretty good of course).

  9. armadillo44 August 20, 2009 at 8:35 am #

    I know I’ve heard the Twins’ ownership say that they’ve always been willing to pay the big bucks to keep a really special player. If Joe Mauer isn’t one of these “special players” then I don’t know who is. Sure it’s a tough spot for the club to be in but the decision should be an easy one. If a company wants to succeed it has to keep top talent like Mauer around especially going into a new park.

  10. Ian August 20, 2009 at 8:36 am #

    I don’t see how the front office can let him walk. They offered Santana 20m/yr at the end, they have to give Mauer that money. I like Smith and think he’s doing a pretty good job overall but there is no way he can be the GM who let Santana, Hunter and Mauer go.

    Reusse had an article about it earlier this year and he’s probably spot on. At the end of the season, Mauer’s agent will give the Twins a really big number and the Twins will have to pay it. The biggest worry I have is that Mauer decides he doesn’t want to stay here. LA Angels would be great for him – pretty girls, great weather, solid team built the right way, no crazy NY/Bos pressure. He’d be a perfect fit there and the Angels have stuff that they could send back. So I think it’s really important for the Twins to make a showing to improve the team this offseason. I’m not sure he signs if it’s the same roster. But maybe the Twins going crazy and adding a John Lackey (for example) would help change his mind.

  11. Topper August 20, 2009 at 8:53 am #

    Is Span really in the top 15 players? I’d put Kubel in there probably, but Span’s name surprised me. He’s great, I agree. I’d probably put him in the top 15 outfielders, but not the top 15 players in general.

    Also, trading Mauer wouldn’t net us anything worthwhile. What about Bill Smith’s regime has proven that he can get something decent in a trade? If Terry Ryan were here I’d trust that we’d get a return in a trade, but Bill Smith would probably overplay his hand and end up behind the 8-ball and not get anything near what we should for Mauer.

    (By the way I think we should sign him to whatever he wants and keep him forever.)

  12. mike wants wins August 20, 2009 at 9:08 am #

    Why would Mauer stay?

    1. He can get as much or more money someplace else.
    2. He can choose to live wherever he wants (in the season, by choosing a team, and out of season wherever he wants). 3. He can choose a team (like the Vikings) that are willing to try to win (there are no guarantees, but would you rather go to a team that tries to get better, or that relies on youth and trading its best players for a future that never comes?).

    As for the KG comparison, that’s spot on, but you have it backwards. Signing KG to a HUGE contract made it harder to add good players around him. Given the way the Pohlads and TWin$ run this organization, they’d have the same “excuse”, wouldn’t they? “We just spent $25MM per year on Joe” “Our payroll is way up” “We can’t afford the top players, now that we are paying Joe, Justin, Nathan, Cuddy”.

    BS blew it by not signing him earlier (deja vu, Terry Ryan). At some point, you’d think this team would learn from it’s past mistakes….at some point.

    I’d offer 7 years, $160MM. I’d seriously consider moving him to 3B (where he’d still be worth that much money), to keep his body fresher over those 7 years. Of course, I’d also back that up by getting a real 2B, SS, SP, RP too (like trading for Sanchez…..ooops, missed that window).

  13. travistalks August 20, 2009 at 9:17 am #

    I really love Mauer but there has to be a limit to what you offer him. I would go up to 7 years and 176 million which is 22 a year and if he wants more than a 7 year deal the annual money has to come down. For example if he wants 8 years it is 8/180. I don’t see the value in trading him. If you can’t sign this offseason you play the season and take another shot at him next fall before free agency starts because you have like a month after the season before free agency starts. I would do ALMOST anything to sign him because this case is the reason you told people you needed target field to sign guys like this. So Bill Smith your on the clock and this negotiation will make or break your career so get it done

    • peterbb18 August 20, 2009 at 6:56 pm #

      Travis,

      Why do you fall for this small-market stuff. This ownership is the richest in baseball, and the 3rd richest in all of North American sports. They can put whatever team they like on the field!

  14. BB-STC August 20, 2009 at 9:19 am #

    A little off topic here, but I see that at MLBTradeRumors.com that John Garland cleared waivers. What are you thoughts of the Twins getting him this year and keep him for next at his $10 mil option as an innings eater?

  15. mike wants wins August 20, 2009 at 9:28 am #

    Garland is a mediocrity right now. I’d hope they can find someone better for $10MM than that.

    I really don’t get the concept of “innings eater” or “big name”. Get talent.

  16. Shawn in Binghamton August 20, 2009 at 9:35 am #

    I was giving Loek crap about the 97 reading and I had told him I heard he hit 99 in FM. The other bullpen guys said the gun here must be fast. :) I said to him, “didn’t you only get to 90-91 last year?” He sheepishly said he only hit 85 when they signed him. If this kid can get some control he could be very dangerous.

    My kid got a signed ball with Van Mil, Steedley, C Gutierrez, Alex Burnett, Waldrop, Frank Mata, Jeff Christy, & Juan Portes.

    • Twinsfan August 21, 2009 at 7:55 pm #

      Nothing wrong with the gun, he’s averaged 94-96 all year. Last year he was only a bit below that. His control has been shaky the last few weeks, but it will be back soon. Would be nice to see Van Mil in camp next year, just to see what he can do when he faces Big League hitters.

  17. thrylos98 August 20, 2009 at 9:46 am #

    I think that the Twins should do the following with Mauer:

    * Sign him to a lifetime deal: 10 years for $15-20M average, with payments spread over 25 years

    * Make him the first captain of the franchise after its move from Washington

    * Make Jake Mauer the third base coach for 2010.

    Given the tied of Mauer (and the Mauers) to the Twin Cities and the Twins, I think that this will be fair for both parties

    • thrylos98 August 20, 2009 at 9:47 am #

      and I should probably add, a position in the Twins’ organization as an adviser/FO if he is into that for that 25 years.

      • Topper August 20, 2009 at 10:40 am #

        Thry I think that’s a great idea. And spreading out payments over 25 years would also hopefully give him some confidence that we’ll still be able to supplement our roster with other good players despite his large salary.

        I would love to have him as the cornerstone of our franchise for the length of his stay in the Majors. He’s something special — players like him don’t come around that often.

  18. halfchest August 20, 2009 at 9:48 am #

    SIGN HIM!!! You’re right that was easy. Now honestly the Twins just have to sign him based on the reasons people have stated.

    1. The new stadium revenue
    2. He’s from the twin cities
    3. He’s being debated with the all time greats and considered either the best or 2nd best (Pujols) player in the game right now

    Those 3 reasons are why the Twins cannot let him walk and I believe they won’t. His revenue alone would likely make up for his contract. Last year I think there was talk about the SP coming up for arbitration. Well, right now none of those guys is looking like they’ll be uber expensive in their arbitration years. Span could be in the coming years, Gomez shouldn’t be too bad. Same with Young.

    The team also needs to as some stated go out and get at least 1 solid starting pitcher. Depending on their price I’m a big fan of going after injury risk guys like Bedard and Sheets. Go get both of them at a reasonable price for 2-3 years. They might look at it the way Joe Crede looked at his last contract and be trying to prove themselves healthy. Hopefully at least one of them does really well and if both live up to their previous performances, then damn, you’ve got yourself one heckuva rotation and happy all stars.

  19. rosterman August 20, 2009 at 9:49 am #

    Mauer is a worker. He keeps himself in shape and comes to play…not party.

    He does best if he is surrounded by solid players. Span (and now Cabrera)helps him hit. He was in a funk when Span went down, remember? It helps to have a solid 2-3 behind him. Even though he did hit with, of all things, Casila and Harris as clean-up guys for two games.

    Somehow, he loves Minnesota. The cabin by the lake. His family and its roots. Yes, he can escape to Florida. Doubt that he’d enjoy New York, or even the climate of Boston. If you want pretty girls, go to California. If you want solid, blonde German/Scandanivian stock, stay in Minnesota and reap the rewards of Catholic Girls!

    Money is an issue. IF he stays and IF he produces, he has long-term possibilities with the Twins, stepping into management for the rest of his life if he wants to work in any way.

    How long can he catch and still produce? One year? Three years? Five years? That’s the question. But look at Pudge…what…17 years of bending down on his knees and still productive.

    It will take 7 years. $140-200 million, with perpetual renewals, and catching prospects crying in the minors that the Twins drafted them.

  20. gobbledygookguy August 20, 2009 at 10:57 am #

    span has done a nice job but he’s only got 20 xbh in 3/4 of a season and probably isn’t even a top 10-15 outfielder in the al, maybe on the edge of that certainly not in the majors. kubal again a nice year but 20 hr and 68 rbi for a dh, not exactly outstanding.

  21. Seth August 20, 2009 at 11:16 am #

    Alright, just looked up VORP, and in the American League ONLY, Mauer is #1, Bartlett is #2, Morneau is #10, Kubel is #17. Cuddyer is at #42, and Denard Span is at #45. I guess I was wrong on Span, and knew also that Cuddyer was up there.

    If I limit it to those with 300+ plate appearances, those 5 Twins stay in the same spots. There are 107 players in the AL with 300+ plate appearances. Orlando Cabrera ranks 74. Joe Crede is at 89. Brendan Harris is at 92. And Nick Punto is at 106! you may ask, who is the one player in the AL who is worse than Nick Punto? It is Dioner Navarro.

    Many thought that the Twins should have gone after Aubrey Huff, instead of letting the Tigers get him… Huff ranks 105th (and he’s been given 480 PA, as opposed to Punto’s 320!)! David Ortiz ranks 91st. Many seem to think Hank Blalock is having a good year… 94th!

  22. mike wants wins August 20, 2009 at 11:23 am #

    Span just looks great because their lead off hitters have been so bad for so long. But, 45th isn’t bad, it just isn’t great. I’m happy with him. He’s a good/nice player that adds value to the team. I’d not break the bank to keep him, but he’s the kind of complimentary player that makes a team a winner.

    I don’t think people realize how good Kubel has been. RBI is just a stupid stat….

  23. the Dragon August 20, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

    It’s time for me to spend the Pohlad’s money ;-)
    1.) 5/6 years @ 20-22 Mil/per
    2.) 5/6 yr option (or until retirement) with base calculated at % increase in Baseball Salaries over part #1, with incentives/deductions for games played/performance.
    3.) Post retirement 20 year personal services contract for $2 to $2.5 mil/per

    Regards,

  24. Sean August 20, 2009 at 1:05 pm #

    Span and Kubel top 10-15 players in the league? Uh not even close. Above Average players yes, and I love to have them but lets not say things that are totally false.

  25. Seth August 20, 2009 at 1:29 pm #

    I had read something wrong… But looking at VORP, Kubel is #17 and Span is #45. Span is ranked #15 among AL outfielders though!! :)

    (if you were wondering, the OF rank would be: Ichiro, Crawford, Choo, Bay, Hunter, Abreu, Damon, Markakis, Ellsbury, Cruz, A. Jones, Rivera, Cuddyer, Granderson, Span, Dye)

  26. Roy Hobbs August 20, 2009 at 3:07 pm #

    The Yankees and Boston both desperately need a catcher. Posada is not an every day catcher anymore and Varitek couldn’t throw out my mom right now. Victor Martinez is not an acceptable alternative behind the plate. If one or the other needed Mauer it would be a problem but since they both do, the hand writing is on the wall. It will take $200mm to sign Joe. There is no way the Twins will do that. They will do as they as always do and fish behind the net, i.e wait and hope for the best. Because of his strong local ties, they will not trade him either. It will play out just as Santana did. It is inevitable and so sad that I can hardly think of it. What a dark day for us all.

  27. peterbb18 August 20, 2009 at 3:32 pm #

    I think Seth is way too sympathetic to the Pohlad family. This family tried to sell the team to a North Carolina party, and they would have contracted the team. This is the richest ownership in baseball, and they can put a competitive team on the field anytime they want. This is a mid-market team with rich ownership—-all of the other successful teams will dip a little into their personal finances. Another problem in the organizational structure is that are no baseball people above Gardy—–for some evaluation—just one big club.

  28. peterbb18 August 20, 2009 at 3:39 pm #

    On the Mauer thing: This family knows baseball and what the Twins management is like—-they realize that Joe will have given 7 years to this oranization and now is time to have a little fun and be part of a World Series type team. The Twins will have one year to change their ways. Once Mauer leaves then other stars will follow! My goodness this team was set-up for a championship two years ago and they gave away what they need now. Think the family doesn’ know this!

  29. Patricia August 20, 2009 at 6:12 pm #

    I agree with a lot of what’s already been said. Basically, it’s simply time to keep one of top players in the game here in MN. I’m aware it’s not financially easy, but it’s the right thing to do, keeping in mind the timing with the stadium and the PR nightmare it would be to lose Joe. I’ll be honest & say that as a fan, I’m probably not able to be comletely objective about this. Just keep Joe Mauer a Twin, and the it’s up to the Pohlads and Smith as to how it happens. Also, I remember with Puck that Carl got involved to get that deal done. I hope that the Pohlads get involved keeping him.

  30. TT August 20, 2009 at 8:50 pm #

    I suspect fans are spending more time worrying about how much Mauer will get paid than he is. That’s what he has an agent for. I think he and the Twins will arrive at an agreement that will make Mauer a very rich man.

  31. JA August 20, 2009 at 10:44 pm #

    The grass is always greener on the otherside. He not going to leave MN for the chance to win, he has a great chance to win right here. The Twins will pay him big $$$ and he’ll stay a Twin. Length, terms, does it matter, it’s funny money for most of us.

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