The First Cuts

17 Mar

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I just received word that the Twins have sent 11 players to minor league camp this morning. No real surprises. They are:

·         Armando Gabino, RHP (40 man)

·         Anthony Swarzak, RHP (40 man)

·         Rob Delaney, RHP

·         Ben Julianel, LHP

·         Danny Lehmann, C

·         Toby Gardenhire, Utility

·         Danny Valencia, 3B

·         Dustin Martin, OF

·         Trevor Plouffe, IF (40 man)

·         Steve Tolleson, IF (40 man)

·         Deibinson Romero, 3B (40 man)

Any thoughts? Any surprises? If you have any comments, please feel free to send me an e-mail, or leave your discussion points in the Comments here.

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21 Responses to “The First Cuts”

  1. thrylos98 March 17, 2009 at 8:56 am #

    I thought that Christy would gone also…

    Keeping Matos and cutting Martin (esp when Humber is coming to the camp) does not make much sense. Also, hard to see Tolleson go, I was hoping he had a shot to make the team. Mijares should have been cut, just for the principle of it. I would also thought that they would want Mulvey and Duensing to get more work as a starters.

    For me the biggest surprise was Martin. He really hit the ball well and would say that he passed Pridie in the depth field. Oh well…

  2. Seth March 17, 2009 at 9:05 am #

    Big league camp still does need catchers, and Christy was at AAA last year. Again, with the camps basically in the same place, it’s really just logistics.

    As for Martin, I’m not at all surprised. Unlike Matos and Pridie (to some degree), Martin could possibly be an every day big league outfielder in a year or so. He’s not going to start with the Twins, so he should go down and play a lot. Same with Valencia. Matos and Pridie are fourth and fifth OF types. One of them would likely be the guy called up if there was a need (injury/etc) in the OF, so they need to know more about both to make those decisions.

  3. Travis Aune March 17, 2009 at 9:21 am #

    I guess I was a little surprised by Martin by the fact how he did this spring. I disagree if there is an injury i see Martin coming up instead of Pridie/Matos. At first I was taken aback by sending all the infielders down in Valencia, Romero, and Tolleson. But with Mourneau back and Crede going on road trips now they should be ok with Mourneau, Crede, Harris, Buscher, and Matt Macri being able to man the corners. My question is when is the next cut and how many

  4. Twins Geek March 17, 2009 at 9:33 am #

    Is Slama in camp? Was Delaney sent down while Slama was kept?

  5. Seth March 17, 2009 at 9:39 am #

    Travis – in the infield, they also still have Luke Hughes, Alejandro Machado and Brock Peterson, so they’ve got plenty. And, unless it is more of a long-term thing, Martin would not get called up before Pridie, even if I agree that he has probably surpassed him on the prospect list. Being added to the 40 man roster is a big thing.

    TG – Slama was not invited to big league camp, so he just reported this past weekend. So with Delaney moving down, they will both be in minor league camp.

  6. cmathewson March 17, 2009 at 9:57 am #

    I expected them to keep Julaniel a little longer considering how Mijares has done.

  7. Seth March 17, 2009 at 10:02 am #

    I thought Julianel would survive this cut. My guess is that they have a pretty solid feel for what he can do. They probably need the extra week or two to evaluate what they have with Mike Gosling and Sean Henn, and then to figure out how Mijares is going to respond to being non-good.

  8. jamar1700 March 17, 2009 at 10:24 am #

    With Mijares having “issues” could they be re-thinking moving Duensing to the ‘pen?

  9. Seth March 17, 2009 at 10:33 am #

    Another good point… Although Duensing is probably slated to start at Rochester, maybe he is a lefty ‘pen option as well.

  10. mike wants wins March 17, 2009 at 10:45 am #

    I’d certainly consider moving Duensing to the pen as a reliever at this point.

    No major suprises here, though I would not have been surprised if Mijares had been sent down too. I think they kept him up to see what they can do with him. But, I’d guess if they don’t see progress (in the game or on the side) that he won’t survive the next cut.

  11. Funkytown March 17, 2009 at 11:22 am #

    Don’t forget as well, they can grab a few guys from camp and put them on the roster today, as long as they were not option guys sent down, so guys like Portes, Dinkleman, Robbins, Roberts will likely play some later innings, too.

    Based on this season, I think Julianel has a shot at the 40-man roster in 2010.

    Mijares pitches today, but I would not be surprised to see him sent down and they go with 3 catchers and 11 pitchers. If Tolbert is shipped out, Rochester will have a heavy load of utility infield guys.

  12. DL March 17, 2009 at 12:09 pm #

    Is Winfree officially in big-league camp? He’s been terrible in the outfield and I expected him to get sent over early.

  13. lookatthosetwins March 17, 2009 at 12:56 pm #

    Hey Seth,

    What do you think of this?

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/organizational-rankings-18

    As someone who knows much more about our organization than I do, do you agree with this at all?

  14. Seth March 17, 2009 at 1:32 pm #

    Winfree is officially in big-league camp. He’s done a nice job, and he’s been OK in the OF. he’s 23 with a lot of power and a decent arm. He’s not big league ready yet, but I believe he’s got a big league future.

    as for the FanGraphs article on the Twins… I don’t disagree with it… I mean, it’s saying they’re pretty much middle of the pack. In reality, the view on that can change either way depending upon how all of the young players who are not rookies anymore, but certainly are not veterans yet either, perform in 2009.

    And as funkytown said, there are plenty of players to play those final 2-3 innings of big league games. there are somewhere around 100 minor leaguers in camp that they’ll invite over from time to time.

  15. rosterman March 17, 2009 at 1:38 pm #

    Matos? If he doesn’t make the Twins, might take the option of not going to Rochester. Again, though, a cut now would allow him to find a job. We’ll see.

    If you aren’t on the 40-man roster (Julianel), your chances of making the team are slim and none…minor league free agent signees excepted (Henn, Dickey, Gosling). Be intereting to see what does happen with Jones, as well as Hendrickson and Pignatiello. The Twins have a lot of pitchers.

    Although any pitcher would give their left or right nut to make the majors in any capacity, Humber is the only starter who will turn reliever that the Twins are worrying about. Duensing will get to anchor Rochester and be the next in line. Swarzak will get a shot. Mulvey still isn’t 40-manned, so no hurry with him. Any of the minor freebies would be ahead of him if the Twins drastically needed a temporary fifth starter and a roster place would be open.

    ALso seeing that Mijares is far from a lock. But it’s not like that there aren’t other alternatives.

    I think the bigger question is how might be cut from the 40-man by spring training end? Ppridie, Humber, Macri, Butera? There really isn’t a lot of bodies to cut, is there. Boof could be 60-dayed to open a spot. But that’s about it.

  16. TT March 17, 2009 at 2:57 pm #

    Couple things for people to remember:

    1) The Twins will have at least one and possibly two spaces available on their 40 player roster when the season starts. I don’t think being on the roster matters.

    2) Some players may be kept in the major league camp because it is unlikely they will have spots at AAA if they aren’t going to be able to contribute at the major league level. Matos is a good example. Not that he is likely to make the roster, but that his roster spot at AAA depends on how immediately he is ready to contribute at the major league level. That means giving him a longer look than a guy like Martin.

    David Winfree is a surprise to me. The Twins have more outfielders than they need in camp. Does this mean Winfree is an option if someone gets hurt? That seems doubtful, but there doesn’t seem to be another ready explanation.

  17. mike wants wins March 17, 2009 at 3:18 pm #

    On Winfree, isn’t it possible that the ML coaches want a more personal look at his approach and preparation, in anticipation of deciding what they might do with him in the future? I’d think that sometimes the ML manager and coaches have guys they want to see more in person, and that sometimes those guys stay up longer than they “should”.

  18. Funkytown March 18, 2009 at 5:45 am #

    Ex-Twins

    Morlan designated for assignment by MIL

    Deeds re-assigned to Cubs minor league camp

    Bowen released by Oakland

  19. Brad March 18, 2009 at 12:06 pm #

    Some were ready to give up on Winfree last year, if you go back and look at the past Player’s of the year for the Twins there haven’t been many flops. He had some mental problems to get over and he needed to find his inner desire to be a great player. It seems that he has gotten over those negativities and is now where he should have been 2 years ago. I wouldn’t be suprised to see him really break out this year in AAA and force Smith’s hand with his outfielders during the off season, I love to see Cudy have a good year so he could be unloaded for something of value.

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