Tosoni to the Diamondbacks???

16 Jul

also available at www.SethSpeaks.net

I got an e-mail this morning that I found very interesting and thought I would post here as I look further into it. Please note that I know nothing. I have no confirmation of anything. I am going to look into it, but it is the type of thing that begs several questions, especially in the middle of July with the Trade Deadline fast approaching.

A site reader wrote: “Is it just a mistake that Tosoni is listed as a D-back or a prelude to something?”

He then provided a link to the Diamondbacks page, which I clicked on, and saw Rene Tosoni listed on the Diamondbacks active roster. I clicked on the Tosoni link and his page popped up, so it is him.

Looking at the rest of the D-Backs active roster, Chad Qualls, Jon Rauch and the rest of their pitchers are still there. Felipe Lopez, Stephen Drew and Augie Ojeda are all still on their roster. So I’m not certain what is going on, if anything. Maybe it is an error on the Diamondbacks online roster administrator, but I do think it is worth at least looking into.

UPDATE – At this point, Tosoni’s name still appears on the Diamondbacks active big league roster. I have been told that Tosoni is unaware of any deal, and another source has informed me that Tosoni has not been dealt to the Diamondbacks. So, did someone from the D-Backs IT department jump the gun? Obviously whoever made the decision to put Tosoni’s name on their mlb.com active roster had to get direction from somewhere, right? Where there is smoke there is fire, but as of this minute, Tosoni is still a member of the Twins organization.

Let me know what you think

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43 Responses to “Tosoni to the Diamondbacks???”

  1. mike wants wins July 16, 2009 at 9:00 am #

    Isn’t he the one OF that is close to the majors right now? That would be an odd person to trade, I think. Please don’t trade for bullpen help, you are too far away at other positions for bulllpen help to make THE difference.

  2. loudjon July 16, 2009 at 9:26 am #

    I agree with “mww”. Tosoni seems like a pretty high price for relief pitching help. I would love to see the Twins in the playoffs with a chip and a chair for the WS title, but at the same time, I don’t believe the team has the necessary starting pitching to make a run deep in the post season. It would make more sense (but not much) if it was Tosoni for John Garland (with Liriano moving to the ‘pen).

    None of Arizona’s position players that they would likely move, excite me.

  3. TwinsFix July 16, 2009 at 9:34 am #

    I’m all for trading Tosoni; his value is incredibly high right now and he’s mostly blocked from the Twins.

    That said, not for a reliever. Please not for a reliever.

  4. Dome Dog July 16, 2009 at 9:37 am #

    I hope the Twins do something via trade this year. Unfortunately I think this team has had too many people take a step backwards for a trade to make THE difference in giving us a shot at the World Series this year (Young, Gomez, Punto, Casilla, basically the entire starting staff except Blackburn, they have all gone backwards).

    I’d still be okay with a trade though if it fills a significant hole for the next 2-3 years. I think of the Shannon Stewart and Luis Castillo trades. They weren’t superstar players, but they were good, solid big leaguers who you knew could fill a position for you for multiple years down the road. With Mauer & Morneau in their primes and Nathan having a few top notch years left, it makes sense to me to make a trade for that type of player, even if it isn’t enough for this year. Then you know in the offseason that you at least have one less hole to worry about.

    Tosoni seems like great trade bait to me, depending of course on who you get in return.

  5. Corky July 16, 2009 at 9:39 am #

    I wouldn’t mind having Felipe Lopez. He’s sportin an OPS of almost 300 points higher than any of our current second basemen…

  6. JA July 16, 2009 at 9:52 am #

    Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Tosoni is a player. Better get something good in return.

  7. TT July 16, 2009 at 10:07 am #

    ” agree with “mww”. Tosoni seems like a pretty high price for relief pitching help.”

    Dependable relievers are not cheap. The last reliever the Twins got in trade, Joe Nathan, cost them an allstar catcher. I think people are completely unrealistic about what marginal prospects will bring. Tosoni may be one of a dozen Twins minor league players that other teams would give up significant major league talent to obtain. And that is being optimistic.

  8. Andy July 16, 2009 at 10:13 am #

    If they did send Tosoni to the Dbacks, I sure hope they get Qualls in return. He would fit in nicely with the Twins as an 8th inning guy.

  9. sam July 16, 2009 at 10:21 am #

    what has he done that other outfielde have not done /like winfree martin pridlie portes tolleson has not done . but you say he the best one we have ?

  10. Topper July 16, 2009 at 10:51 am #

    Wow, Tosoni for Felipe Lopez would be a little steep too, no? I mean, Lopez is having a solid year, but his track record doesn’t boast anything to match Tosoni’s potential

  11. thrylos98 July 16, 2009 at 10:55 am #

    Could be an error; no subtractions of the diamondbacks 25-man roster

  12. thrylos98 July 16, 2009 at 10:57 am #

    Also Tosoni is listed in the current Rock Cats’ roster

  13. MauerPauer July 16, 2009 at 11:02 am #

    The Diamondbacks and Twins have a previous connection on outfield prospects. A couple of years ago the D’backs selected Trent Oeltjen(sp?) in the Rule 5 draft. This would not be a surprising move if it is for real. I would hope for Qualls. I think the next two weeks are an evaluation period for Casilla. If he plays well, we will stick with him and try to ride him out to the end of the season. If he stinks, the Twins will try to make a trade.

  14. Travis July 16, 2009 at 11:12 am #

    my guess is we are looking at a trade of Felipe Lopez and Jon Rauch for Tosoni and a low end prospect

  15. thrylos98 July 16, 2009 at 11:15 am #

    I still want to see Tosoni and Crain for Scott Downs + prospect. Natural fit because they are both Canadians

  16. roger July 16, 2009 at 11:18 am #

    First Alex Romero (who is currently with the DBacks and playing well), then Trent Oeltjen. So another good young outfielder to Arizona seems to make sense. I believe that Tosoni is a potential star and would hate to lose him! So, if they do this they had better put together a nice package and get two needed pieces (say second base and short reliever) that will be here for awhile.

  17. the Dragon July 16, 2009 at 11:41 am #

    Maybe a piece for Dan Haren?

    What we need is starting pitching!

    Regards,

  18. John July 16, 2009 at 11:55 am #

    Probably an error. Tosoni is a good prospect, so if he is traded the Twins better get something of use in return.

  19. Seth July 16, 2009 at 12:14 pm #

    Still at noon, I have no idea why Tosoni’s name has not been removed from the D-Backs roster since you have to think this is creating some stir, at least with some of the people I’ve talked to.

    Also, good point about the Diamondbacks interest in the Twins farm system. In the TwinsCentric Trade Deadline Primer, the Diamondbacks’ summary page includes that information. And there certainly are a few players who would be of interest on that roster.

  20. DL July 16, 2009 at 12:19 pm #

    Somebody is messing with the rumor mongerers. Even if Tosoni was traded there would be no reason to put him on a 40 man roster unless he was going to be immediately called up. I haven’t seen anyone suggest Tosoni was ready for a callup.

  21. Seth July 16, 2009 at 12:22 pm #

    Good point DL, and one I meant to bring up. He would not have to be added to the 40 man roster until after this season, so I don’t know why the D-Backs would promote him right way and potentially waste an option year.

    he is good. I think he can be a very good starting outfielder. They have Justin Upton and Chris Young right now. Gerardo Parra is another young OF that has been up this year. Eric Byrnes is on the DL.

    I’m just not sure what to make of this. The two teams are a good match for a trade… and I just don’t know why Tosoni’s name is still there.

  22. Greg B July 16, 2009 at 12:25 pm #

    Even more puzzling — it’s not just that they have him listed on the 40 man roster, they have him on their ACTIVE roster.

  23. roger July 16, 2009 at 12:32 pm #

    Seth, who on the DBack roster do you think would really help the Twins…this year?

  24. mike wants wins July 16, 2009 at 12:39 pm #

    Both MN and the Diamondbacks are saying it was a mistake. KLAW said he heard from the Diamondbacks, and La Velle said he heard from the TWins.

  25. thisisbeth July 16, 2009 at 12:42 pm #

    A couple of years ago, I went to the Brewers site for something and looked at the logo. It was the Brewers page with their logo, but the players on it were the Twins team. I don’t know how long it stayed (not long) but it was a more major event. This easily could be a mistake…but it could just as easily be that something is happening.

  26. Funkytown July 16, 2009 at 12:42 pm #

    Tosoni will be obsolete with the youthful OFs MN has at this point.. Revere moving up soon, others not far behind..given that, I’d rather they shipped Pridie elsewhere.

    But to get something you have to give something up.

  27. thrylos98 July 16, 2009 at 12:46 pm #

    LEN3 in his chat today said that Rob Antony denied that there is anything going on with the Diamondbacks

  28. Funkytown July 16, 2009 at 1:03 pm #

    Seth, there is one place where teams submit data to be changed for all MLB websites. I found an error on a Twins camp for kids, and called the team. They told me that it would likley take a day and a half to get it changed, so they didn’t bother.

    Sounds like the changes for the roster may not move quite that slowly, but slow enough.

  29. roger July 16, 2009 at 1:11 pm #

    Will be curious Seth to find out exactly how this mistake happened. I for one am elated that it appears to not be true because I believe that Tosoni is the #1 outfield prospect in the organization.

  30. gobbledygookguy July 16, 2009 at 1:22 pm #

    seth what do you have tosoni rated at? i’ve seen some ratings he isn’t even in the top 20.

  31. Seth July 16, 2009 at 1:31 pm #

    Gobble, I ranked him as the Twins #10 prospect in June. First, I know that the Twins love him. Second, he’s the one prospect in the system that the Twins have really pushed forward, and he has proven himself at each spot. Potentially, he’s a good average hitter with an ability to work counts and even hit for some power.

    Based on potentially, I think you have to have at least Hicks ahead of him in terms of outfield prospects, and probably Revere, I guess… But I’d have Tosoni right there next in line.

  32. roger July 16, 2009 at 1:40 pm #

    You know me Seth, gotta see it on the field to give ’em those lofty rankings. Revere is doing well at Ft. Myers, but Hicks is struggling at Beloit…although he has been there for only a month or so. My concern with Revere is his defense/arm and his legs. What I mean is that he needs to be healthy and seems to have a lot of nagging leg related injuries. For a player that accomplishes so much with speed, the legs are so important!

  33. NorthDakotaTwinsFan July 16, 2009 at 2:10 pm #

    Make no mistake, Tosoni is a MAJOR prospect for the Twins. I was comparing him to Kubel last year and people thought I was nuts. Now, in the Star-Tribune article a few days ago, there was a quote where scouts compare Tosoni to a “young Kubel”.

    Tosoni may not have the upside potential of Hicks. But, in my opinion he has a better chance of reaching his potential than Hicks does. Hicks is a mediocre hitter left handed. He has a very long ways to go.

    Tosoni destroys right handed pitching. Scouts I have talked to say his only weakness right now is he can’t hit lefties. (sounds a lot like Kubel). He has nowhere near the experience of some other AA hitters, yet his OPS against RHP is over 1.000 Tosoni is a major prospect. The issue with him is not so much what he has done, but in what he is doing now. He is batting over .300 in his last 220 at bats in AA. So after a very slow start, he has figured things out. His OPS is over .900 in his last 220 or so at bats. Keep your eyes on this one. He is, in my opinion, the third best prospect we have. So I sincerely hope we do NOT trade him

  34. Derek July 16, 2009 at 2:14 pm #

    i think tosoni looks like a young michael cuddyer

  35. L.M. Griffin July 16, 2009 at 2:30 pm #

    Ditto to all on Tosoni. He is no longer a sleeper prospect. He can be in the Twins outfield by 2011. By 20ll someone will be gone — Young, Glomez etc. and Tosoni will be there. He is the five tool player the Twin like, and, if you read Tosoni’s quotes, he understands “the Twins way” of playing.

    The other former sleeper, featured today on another blog site is pitcher Alex Burnet, also at New Britain. The Twins brass love both these players.

  36. Funkytown July 16, 2009 at 2:43 pm #

    Here’s your pitcher/day..will be tough to top this one:

    Michael Tonkin 7IP 2H/15K in 1-0 win for GCL Twins.

    Wow

  37. Funkytown July 16, 2009 at 2:44 pm #

    Look at the “BIG 3″ in GCL

    Tonkin 6’7″
    Hermsen 6’6″
    Weller 6’5”

  38. roger July 16, 2009 at 3:05 pm #

    NorthDakotaTwinsFan…who are your #1 and #2 prospects?

    • NorthDakotaTwinsFan July 16, 2009 at 3:24 pm #

      I have Valencia as the number 1 prospect

      and Ramos as the number 2 prospect

      • roger July 16, 2009 at 3:45 pm #

        It is tough to argue with those two. I would have had Tosoni ahead of Valencia prior to his last month at AAA. Ramos could be #1, but missing so much of this year will hurt both his progression towards the Twins and his rankings.

  39. thrylos98 July 16, 2009 at 5:37 pm #

    Tosoni no longer listed in the Dbacks 25-man roster. Here is another curious happenstance: In addition to Tosoni, Jorge Vazquez a Yankees AAA non-prospect (27 year old; signed this year from the Mexican league, never played pro ball in the States before) was added to the Dbacks roster. He is still there. Methinks that someone thought that April Fools’ day was 3.5 months later

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