One Day, That’s It!

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A special thank you to all those who joined the TwinsCentric guys at Park Tavern in St. Louis Park on Saturday night. It was actually great to be able to watch the game and commiserate with a bunch of other Twins fans. After watching Games 1 and 2 by myself and sitting next to my Twitter account, I’ve now noted that having people to go through such moments and being able to talk together is pretty important.

Saturday night’s game was incredibly frustrating, and yet, it may have been the easiest of the three games to move past because it was over early. Frankly, Brian Duensing has not been more hittable all season, and Phil Hughes made the Twins bats look bad. Or, maybe the Twins bats made Phil Hughes look really good.

Three and out. That’s it. I was wrong. I thought there was something different about the 2010 team, something that would overcome the Small Sample Size that the playoffs truly are. Something that would overcome the fact that the Twins had the higher seed, but the Yankees were the favorites after having a better record in a tougher division. Last Monday, instead of going with my head, I went with my heart and picked the Twins in Four Games. I’m not going to apologize for being optimistic, and I’m not going to stop being primarily optimistic. And I’m not going to apologize for believing that what a team does over 162 games means more to me than what happens in the playoffs. While I say that, I fully understand that the ultimate goal is a World Series championship. I understand that.

So today on this site, I’m going to give many of you an opportunity to vent away. But one day, please! Air out your grievances. Share with other readers what frustrates you. Discuss with each other how a team that went 94-68 during the regular season could be swept in the first round.

You can talk about the pitching? You can talk about Gardy’s 6-21 record in the post season or hit abysmal record against the Yankees in his managerial career. You can talk about the hitting of Joe Mauer, or Jim Thome, or Jason Kubel; or you can talk about how there wasn’t a right-handed bat in the organization that could platoon with Kubel. You can talk about three utility infielders on the bench. Anything.

Let today be a day of complaining, whining and healing. And then starting tomorrow, let’s look back and look ahead. We can look back at was an incredible, memorable season. And we can start thinking about what the Twins need to do in the offseason.

The one thing I ask is that for any complaint that you want to give in the comments, be sure to fully explain it, and explain exactly what you would do differently and why that would work. For instance, if you think Ron Gardenhire deserves all of the blame for the playoff performance and you want him fired, you can’t just say “Ron Gardenhire needs to be fired.” Tell me who you would hire and why that person would guarantee that the Twins would not go backwards, and in fact, guarantee that the new manager would win a World Series title.

If you think that Joe Mauer is vastly overrated because he only hit .250 with no extra base hits in the game, tell me what should be done about it. Should Drew Butera have played? Should they trade Mauer and bring in AJ Pierzynski?

So again, I’ll give you today to vent. I think it’s important. And I think it’s healthy. But please make sure that it is a productive complaint, not just complain to complain.

Alright, here you go. Leave your comments here.


39 Responses to “One Day, That’s It!”

  1. 0 - 12 October 11, 2010 at 1:13 am #

    Here’s my rant:

    1. Beyond any individual failures–and they were abundant–did anyone on that team show any heart or sack at all? Were they even trying in the third game? The way this team rolled over and died was disgusting.

    2. The week long vacation the team took after clinching the division was I believe a key factor in the team’s poor showing, almost as if they’re content with just winning the division and hey if they take a game or two in the playoffs great. There was way too much self satisfaction and not enough focus on the playoffs. This comes from the top.

    3. Mauer: Be a leader. Not just a good player. Failing to perform is one thing, everyone has a bad series. But put the team on your back, hall of famer. He looked helpless. We didn’t build a stadium and franchise for Mauer to be helpless against the Yankees.

    4. Will the organzation finally wake up and realize that a group of #2 and #3 starters is not going to get it done in the playoffs? Bring in an ace. We made a huge mistake not going for Lee at the deadline. Big time organizations step up and take risks when it’s appropriate. You can’t go to war with the top AL East Teams (or the eventual NL winner) with 2’s and 3’s. Liriano is not a #1 starter. Period. The best baseball minds in the game, we don’t know this?

    5. No RH bat and 3 middle infielders. Yep.

    6. Game 1 Gripe: Why dial up a fastball to Curtis Granderson when he had been hacking and flailing at breaking balls and couldn’t hit one from a lefty to save his own life?

    7. Gardy: WTF Gardy? The Royals could win at least one game out of 12 against the Yankees. It has to be in his head. It has to be. Is it an inferiority complex? Fear?

    This has to be the most humiliating series. We bent over and took it where the sun don’t shine. AGAIN. It’s time for this organization to step up, realize that if we want to be with the big boys its time to spend some money on pitching and not adhere to this strategy of being just good enough to win a weak division and hoping to catch lightning in a bottle in the playoffs. That might have worked in the pre-Boras era. It doesn’t work now. You need horses. Go get em and enough with trying to outcute and outthrift other teams. That’s a great formula for beating the Indians. We want a ring dammit.

    • longtimefan October 11, 2010 at 1:24 pm #

      How does “gardy” hit for Mauer, Justin, Kubel et al? How?
      How does “gardy” force a fa(s)t ball, up and in to a grungyson? Did he order the pitch?
      After watching baseball for 45 years, I’m trying to figure out what you pussy babies mean when baseball players are to “show heart”? Are you such a pathetic NFL idiot to think Mauer and Hardy are supposed to jump in the stands ala Moss to solidify their solidarity with the fans? Maybe they should “high five” the people in the first row to get pumped up for their next at bat instead of standing in the circle and play acting a hit to get their timing down. Is that would you morons think about playing with heart? Gee, if I made 57 thousand dollars per at bat, I’d give ya the finger while leaving the bat on my shoulder… I’ll show you my heart you idiots. Play with heart you say… What in hell are you talking about. Why don’t you work in Brewster’s locker room… Twirl your poms poms and scream Go Gopher Go. ..”Gardy should be fired.” What are you idiots talking about.

      • Ryan October 11, 2010 at 3:43 pm #

        @longtimefan I think you need to read his statement He did not blame Gardenhire for the other players poor showings or lack of “heart”.

        You sound like an angry old man who has no reading comprehension.

      • Kunza October 11, 2010 at 5:49 pm #

        Seriously? You don’t need to state the complete obvious to us about managers aren’t the ones actually playing the game. Great observation. Did I also mention that you have to be an astronaut to walk on the moon?

        It is very, very, very, very, very clear that the Twins played this whole series without any true leadership. All the ex players on ESPN and MLB Network said the same thing. Hell, even all the insiders said the same thing. The word is out on these guys that they have no true leadership.

      • Kunza October 11, 2010 at 5:52 pm #

        One more thing… if you can’t blame the manager for when things are going bad you sure the heck can’t blame the manager when things are going great.

        Then it really doesn’t matter who the manager is, does it?

  2. USAFChief October 11, 2010 at 2:38 am #

    First, thanks for another year of blogging, Seth. A lot of us out here enjoy having the material to read.

    Gripe: Nothing to be said about the ALDS. It sucked. What more can you say?

    Instead, my fear: The Twins are going to cry ‘payroll!’ this winter and retreat to the days of a couple great players surrounded by a lot of dreck. I know the payroll is going to be a tough nut to crack in 2011, but now is the time to go for it. They have ‘lived within their means’ for a long time, and that’s understandable. But they have a new stadium, and a core group that’s talented. Plenty of payroll comes off the books in 2012 (Nathan, Cuddyer, Kubel, etc.) Bump up the payroll in 2011 to $140M, just for a year while attendance will still be through the roof, and take a loss if you have to. I’m not asking them to do it every year, but it makes sense to add payroll in 2011. Sign or acquire a true ace. A great defensive CF would make sense, leaving Span as a fourth OFer for a year. Keep Hardy. Keep Crain and Rauch. Find a RH bench bat who rakes against LH pitching. If Mauer is going to continue to catch, find a RH hitting backup catcher who doesn’t hit like a pitcher. Go for it.

    By 2012, the payroll crunch starts to ease a bit. 2011 is not the time to let payroll dictate roster moves. By their own admission, the Twins have made a profit over the past decade or so. Fine, they deserve that, but this fanbase has supported them pretty well, and we deserve to ‘make a profit’ once in a decade, too.

    • mike wants wins October 11, 2010 at 3:38 pm #

      Doubly depressing. The Twins’ PR staff (aka, Joe Christensen) is already preaching a cut in payroll because of Joe “single’s hitter” Mauer’s contract. The guy is always beat up at this time of the year – move him to 1B already (assuming Morneau is not back).

      • Kunza October 11, 2010 at 5:50 pm #

        If the Twins actually cut payroll next season the state needs to ask the Twins to pay more money then for their stadium and not the taxpayers, because everyone in the state was just ripped off.

  3. Jack Steal October 11, 2010 at 3:04 am #


    Why only one day and then magically everything will be better. Sorry, not as optimistic as you and the Twins Centric crew. What happened to the Twins in the playoffs was not only embarassing, it was disgraceful. We are the laughing stock of MLB and you believe we should not blame the manager!! If Gardy wins A.L. Manager of the year it will be because of a great regular season in 2010. Why should he not be blamed for another 3 game sweep in the playoffs when we were promised more. It would appear you want it both ways. Fans have a right to be very angry because we were lied to by the front office and told this team would be better. It was in fact worse than 2009 in the playoffs. At least those games in the 2009 playoffs were close. Remember when I expressed concerns over how terrible the team was playing after they clinched the A.L. Central Division. You told everybody it was no big deal. Gardy chose to rest his starters for two weeks and in the process they lost their edge. You can’t turn it on and off like a light switch.

    A great manager (Ozzie Guillen) said in a press conference earlier this season that “Everything that happens on the field is my responsiblity.” Than Gardy and his coaches are responsible for losing in the playoffs it’s that simple. He is responsible for being 18-57 against the Yankees and a lifetime of 6-21 in the playoffs. You always like to say “Thats a pretty small sample size.” You can’t say that about his playoff record because it’s larger than the Grand Canyon. We have lost 12 straight playoff games in a row and have not won a single game since the 2004 ALDS. He has had 9 years to accomplish something in the playoffs and has failed in a humilating fashion!! How long should we wait? I know lets wait another 15-20 years to win just 1 playoff game. The Pohlad family has already said they will re-sign Gardy to a contract extension so it’s a forgone conclusion that he will be back.

    However, I believe once Target Field wears out it’s welcome this team will be like Cleveland in another 5 years. Just watch the salary dump this off-season. How many chances does Gardy deserve? If Gardy is such a great manager why does he continue to baby these players?? Because he wants to be their buddie not their manager. GM Bill Smith should have Paul Molitor on his speed dial because he is the only person out there that can turn this thing around. Why Paul Molitor?? He is a Hall of Fame player, already works close with the development of young kids, has a great reputation, and it does not hurt that he is a St. Paul native. Oh and I can gurantee Molitor is not afraid of the Yankees like Col. Sanders. He has no track record but neither did Gardy when he was hired. Would Gardy keep his job in New York, L.A., Chicago, Detroit, or Boston? The answer is he would have been fired years ago so why is Mediocrity accepted so freely here in Minnesota? Because he is a nice guy!! Come on, thats not acceptable to me a season ticket holder who shells out $3,200.00 a year and should not be acceptable to you either. The bottom line is someone needs to be held accountable.

  4. TheatreBrian October 11, 2010 at 5:19 am #

    Small sample size is small sample size.

    We played poorly, no question, but still. I have a hard time freaking out too much over three games.

    That said –

    1) Scott Ullger needs to go. I know there isn’t a stat for this, and I doubt anyone keeps track, but has any 3B coach sent more players in situations where they were thrown out by 40 feet or more? He is BAD at his job. Replace him. With anyone. My choice? I hear Mike Redmond is unemployed.

    2) Gardy has a lot of good things going for him as a manager, but his love affair with weak hitting utility infielders has GOT to stop. Tobert had NO business on that playoff roster. I know there was a lack of options, but at least Morales would have provided some variety. Seriously.

    3) Gardy’s other “wake up and realize it” issue has to be platooning. KUBEL CANNOT HIT LEFTIES. So stop playing him against them. We all know this. Everyone knows this. My girlfriend knows this, and she doesn’t really understand baseball. Why the hell can’t Gardy figure it out? We need a right-handed platoon bat. And we need it now.

    But to be fair…. a lot of stuff couldn’t be predicted. We lost game one because Crain turned back into Jesse Drain at the worst possible moment. Who could have seen that coming? The umps were so badly against us, it actually made me start to wonder if there isn’t a Yankees-biased conspiracy going on in the MLB playoffs. We all know they draw a bigger TV share – I know its a long shot, but I do kinda smell shenanigans. We ALL know Wendelstadt and Gardy have history. Why would they schedule him for this series?

    Sure, there’s stuff to fix. But some of y’all need to take a deep breath and realize that sometimes stuff happens.

    I don’t know how the money thing will work out next year, but I’d rather keep Fuentes than Rausch or Capps. If we can keep even *most* of this team and add Nathan and Morneau back – we’ll be stronger than ever.

    But yeah – 162 games and then out in 3. Hurts. Wish we could have a best-of-7, at least.

  5. Kunza October 11, 2010 at 6:26 am #

    Nothing to complain about. It’s business as usual for the Twins. Talk about cutting payoll already. Can’t sign him, can’t sign him, can’t sign him…

    blah, blah, blah….

    Maybe the Twins shouldn’t have picked up Cuddyer’s horrible option this year. Give me Hardy and Hudson together at $10 million than have 1 Cuddyer at $10. Yuck.

  6. Ned October 11, 2010 at 6:49 am #

    Sometimes the brass clackers turn out to be porcelain.

  7. Maija October 11, 2010 at 6:57 am #

    Can we please get rid of Jesse Crain? I mean, I understand he was pretty good for awhile and can be pretty good when he wants… but I just can’t take it anymore!!

  8. Bill in Sarasota October 11, 2010 at 7:58 am #

    1. The Twins do not match up well against top lefties. A good right handed batter is needed to be the DH vs RHP. Having Thome on the bench for a critical AB can affect the other manager.
    2. The series would have looked different if Texiera was injured instead of Morneau.
    3. The Twins need to stock pile picks for Pavano and their Type B relievers. I would not offer arb to Guerrier if he’s a Type A because no one else will give up picks for him.
    4. Bring back Hardy for at least one more year.
    5. Save money by playing Casilla at 2B and not resigning Punto.

  9. SteveH October 11, 2010 at 8:30 am #

    What makes this ALDS loss so painful is that there is not a quick or easy alibi. We can talk about Morneau or Nathan, but the Twins still had a great second half without them. No easy answers without lots of changes and there’s so much risk with that.

    Seth thanks for the outstanding insight and perspectives that you’ve shared throughout the year. It’s made my baseball season more rewarding. 2010 will be remembered as a great year for Twins baseball, even with the too quick ending.

  10. Bill in Sarasota October 11, 2010 at 8:31 am #

    Oops I meant LHP for #1 instead of RHP.

  11. Ryan October 11, 2010 at 8:46 am #

    Upset as I am with the way things turned out, there’s no need to vent about the team’s performance. I swear it is all in their heads. Whether they will admit it or not, their postseason failures, at least on a subconscious level, have to be mostly mental. They play heartless and scared once they have their champagne shower. This year I believe their 2-8 finish to the season was a result of them already playing scared. They won with players injured all year until that final week. Why the sudden 180-degree change? Because it was in their heads that they would fail! It happens to regular people in everyday life and it can happen to the pro athletes and even entire teams, regardless of which players they have in uniform. They need to hire a damn good sports psychologist to meet with the team next season.

  12. gobbledy October 11, 2010 at 9:05 am #

    if the twins played in the east they would have won around 84-85 games. as long as they are in the central they will look like a playoff team until the playoffs start then they look like a 4-5 place team in the east. they get fat off the weak teams and have a hard time with the good teams year after year. nothing that happened should have been a surprise. gardy is a great manager when they win and has no fault when they don’t, great job if you can get it!

  13. adyacent October 11, 2010 at 10:00 am #

    More than a rant, some observations. In my opinion, it doesn’t help much to rant about the past, unless you take some lesson for the future.
    1) One thing that affected flexibility during this year, was too many duplicate players: Punto and Tolbert are basically the same player; you can have one of them in the roster, but not both. Given the need to savo some money, I would let Punto go next year and stay with Tolbert.
    2) As much as all of us loved having Thome, we had basically 2 lefty DHs, with no alternative from the right side. As much as we talk about the need to platoon Kubel, platoon him with who? If Thome is coming back next year, probably Kubel needs to be let go. I like Kubel, but saving money on him open the possibility of keeping Hudson, for example
    3) Also, the roster has to have a back up first baseman. Cuddy filled up the position well, but Morneau return is still a question mark. Could Morales be a back up catcher and first baseman? I don’t know.
    Regarding to coaching, the only one that made blatant mistakes all year was Ulger. The rest is a question of tastes. Yeah, another coach may make us win against the Yankees, but also can make us loose the division or worse. Look at the clubs that change managers this season. The only one that actually improved was Baltimore.
    Thanks Seth for your blogging and for always having a constructive approach to things.

    • mike wants wins October 11, 2010 at 3:36 pm #

      I agree with this, and yet, they went with three utility infielders in the post season RIDICULOUS.

  14. Chris October 11, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    I think the team lacks heart, from the top down, Gardy was scared, the Yankees are in his (their) heads, the whole organzition knows they can make truck loads of money by competing in the regular season, but who cares about championships….

    Mauer is a second fiddle, much like Garnett, weak and not clutch at ALL…the teams of 87 and 91 had grit and HEART…Imagine Puckett, Herbie, Gladden et al. rolling over like this club just did…the are gutless and upper management does not care…they will still make their money…

  15. mbrian October 11, 2010 at 2:36 pm #

    The Twins didn’t pitch very well, but the backbreaker was going 2/18 with RISP with 1 RBI (compared to NYs 9/25 with RISP). That may partially be attributed to skill, but I think a lot of it is simply having the bad luck to go through a cold stretch at a bad time. Even against Sabathia, Petitte, and Hughes, that Twins line-up would normally do better than that. One or two big hits can change everything and the Twins didn’t get those hits.

  16. Ryan October 11, 2010 at 2:37 pm #

    Why are you so against negativity toward the Twins Seth? Are you afraid of conflict? The team deserves a lot more than one day of grief from the fans that shell out their hard earned money to support them and fill the seats.

    The pitching staff is not adequate if you want to be a competitor against the big boys. I was yelled at by many Twins fans for saying that before the season started. By the end of the season it was proven that 3 of our initial 5 starters are terrible. I have no confidence in those guys and more importantly they have no confidence in themselves.

    Gardy is way to soft with these guys and plays the buddy more than the manager. He let Blackburn pitch way too many games before sending his sorry ass down to the minors. Why the hell was Valencia down in the minors while Punto was up here batting around the Mendoza line. It took an injury for them to take a risk on Valencia.

    There is a real lack of personality with this team. There is no fire in their eyes and no enthusiasm in that dugout. Other than Hudson I just do not see the real passion and confidence that a team needs to succeed.

    I could go on and on but I have grown tired of typing. This team is not perfect and neither is Gardenhire. I realize that no team is perfect but many Twins fans hold some of these guys up on pedestals that they do not deserve to be on.

    • Chris October 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm #

      Couldn’t agree more, they DESERVE a little more heat for a failed post season…their soft and I don’t believe the ownership cares if they win it all…bottom line is that they raked in the money this year AND already upped ticket prices!!! they can stand the heat THIS isn’t peewee league…

  17. j-sin October 11, 2010 at 2:46 pm #

    I was unable to see the complete games, but my biggest complaint about the whole series was the fact that the inside of the plate was taken away from the Twins’ non-power pitchers. If the Twins don’t get the call (like Pavano’s 7th inning strike to Berkman), the Yanks can sit on the outside pitch and tee off. I didn’t see as much of Liriano and Duensing, but did anyone else notice this was a big factor? Maybe just in game 2…

  18. mike wants wins October 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm #

    I don’t know who makes the decision on the bench, but it can’t be three utility infileders again. That’s just stupid.

    In fairness to Gardy, there was no one for him to platoon with Kubel. That is a failure of the minor league system (which has been AWFUL at developing hitters).

    Change who you draft – it isn’t working. Mauer, Morneau and maybe Valencia in the last how many years? Not one player came up from the minors in 2009 – not one. This year, it was Valencia. NOT ONE player is ready in AAA for next year, not one. This is a failure, and yet, somehow, people keep saying how great the Twins’ are run. I don’t get it.

  19. Rick October 11, 2010 at 5:31 pm #

    Guess I will always be a Twinsfan no matter what. And I am old enough that I can celebrate the World Championships of 1987 and 1991. But, honestly, I don’t see the Twins ever capable of competing with the Yankees. There is just a confidence level that Yankee players are able to bring to the game that the Twins players will never learn or have. I think this is the lowest point I have ever felt as a Twins fan. Even during the very lean years. I believe the Twins went all in, as best they can, this year. I can’t see them doing that again for many years. So Twins fans must be realistic and hope that we can even compete for the Division title next year. With the minor leagues in such sorry shape, there is not much glow on the horizon for any substantial help from young players for a few more years. And even if there were, would “The Twins Way” teach these kids the moxie that exits in New York? I think not. New Stadium, same failures.

  20. jack torse October 11, 2010 at 5:43 pm #

    There is a lot of blame to throw around not only with Gardy but I’ll start with him. After 12 playoff losses in a row there has to be some accountablity for it. Is Gardy not responsible for the performances on the field as a whole? Billy smith said how many times this was a team that was built to advance deep in the playoffs. In the past they’ve used a lot of excuses, (some valid) for not advancing. However, especially offensively, the entire team chokes come playoff time. No matter the make up of the team. For whatever reason it’s the same story each playoff series. They’ve changed players, why not consider changing coaches if not Gardy. Maybe get some coaches who have excelled in october, or ones that were just great players in general. Perhaps this will change the playoff mentality? Their current approach is not working and Gardy would be fired in other markets where winning the series is their goal. Also, for a guy who preaches not to get too high or too low why are the Twins so prone to prolonged slumps? June and september/october were mirror images.

    They need better pitching, period. They need to draft/aquire/trade pitchers with more dominant stuff. These pitch to contact guys are nice but they allow too many baserunners and are exposed every single playoff run. Watch the rest of the starters in the playoffs and you will see what I’m talking about. Most of them will bring mid 90’s and have low hits to ip and b.a.a. when you compare them to the twins’ guys. The cliff lee deal should have got done. How many times do you have a chance to aquire a playoff master, and yankee killer, regardless of for how long? He would have been real expensive i realize but he’s money in the big games and that’s a lot harder to find than Ben Revere and AAron Hicks.

  21. Bob October 11, 2010 at 6:02 pm #

    My biggest disappointment was it was the Yankees again that slapped the Twins around. It is getting real tiresome that they just own the Twins.

    Since they will continue to be the team that the Twins must get past to go to the world series. The Twins front office, Gardy & his coaches must use them has the measuring stick in attempting to move forward. They are going to have to be smarter because out spending them is not possible with the revenue advantages they have.

    After one season at Target Field I believe they need to improve team speed over-all especially at the OF & MIF positions. I do not like Span in CF. I would prefer in in RF and move Kubel or someone else to get a quality CF for 2010 (Revere & Hicks are coming). Casilla replacing Hudson also adds some speed & youth. What I saw he turn some things around this year.

    Starting Pitching being improved for 2010 is critical. Resigning Pavano is a must. FA pickings are slim, Cliff Lee only true #1 SP & not likely to consider Twins. Trades maybe but the price would probably be too costly to get real quality. Best scenerio improvement within (Liriano, Slowey, & Baker MUST STEP UP). Gardy & Anderson must light a fire under them that they can be better pitchers and 2011 they must bring it or the Twins need to move on.

    Morneau must come back healthy (prayers) and I think his back up needs to be Mauer (bring a 1B glove to spring training). Mauer cuts back on games behind the plate and used has Morneau’s back up & DH. Morneau DHs when Mauer plays 1B. They are our big guns, we go nowhere without them healthy and leading our line up. Delmon Young came on strong this year. He still has more game and may be the 3rd big hitter to go with the M&M boys.

    Bullpen will need to be re-tooled too with pending FAs & Nathan’s return.

    Lastly, Joe Mauer will figures somethings out in the off season and work his tail off to much pride. He will show all his distractors next yr.

    I am like all Twins fans extremely disappointed with the short play off run this year. However, I am a long time Twins fan (61) and choose to look foreward.

  22. G. Lunn October 11, 2010 at 7:41 pm #

    1. Trade Kubel for right handed bat to platoon at DH with Thome, and put Cuddyer back in RF. Kubel has been lousy against lefties and in postseason.

    2. Give Morneau more rest, assuming he comes back, and get the latest technology helmets to protect against further concussions.

    3. More days off for Mauer and a better knee brace.

    4. Start drafting some pitchers who have more upside.

    5. Keep Fuentes and let Capps go.

  23. hoff October 11, 2010 at 8:26 pm #

    We’re fine. Need a #1 starter or stud lf/rf right hand bat. Maybe Gibson in 2 years is the #1 (for real, not default) Maybe Cuddyer hit’s better from rf. The season was a good one. Shit happens in a 5 game series. Go Twins

  24. Sam Militello October 11, 2010 at 9:51 pm #

    “I thought there was something different about the 2010 team, something that would overcome the Small Sample Size that the playoffs truly are.”

    Funny how the Small Sample Size never goes our way.

  25. Seth October 11, 2010 at 10:52 pm #

    Jack – Ozzie Guillen, the ‘great manager’… how well did he lead his team against the Twins this year? and again, there is nothing to indicate that a Hall of Fame career, like that of Paul Molitor, would mean guaranteed World Series.

    TheatreBrian – I agree on Kubel can’t hit lefties, but who was he going to be replaced by… and, in his seven plate appearances against lefties in the THREE games, he walked three times, which isn’t horrible.

    People obviously can complain all offseason or in season or whatever they want. I wanted to provide a place to vent today and I think it is important.

    I also think it gets old to complain about the same things day in and day out. Gardy isn’t going anywhere, and I think that’s just fine. They have a lot of decisions to make. The Twins don’t control what division they’re in or how weak/strong it is, so all they can do is play the games. They can’t control any other team… and frankly, I can’t do anything about any of it anyway.

    I have never been as frustrated, annoyed, disappointed in a Twins team as I was in the ALDS this year… but it’s two days ago now. Things have been voiced. Opinions shared. That’s all good. But in the end, all they can do is start planning for next season again.

    I actually wrote negatively on my site during the playoffs. I was negative about Mauer. In the spring when he signed the extension, I thought it was a bad baseball only move, but we all agreed that signing him was about much more than just baseball. It was about the new stadium and spending more and keeping their home grown players. So, I find it a little disingenous if I started whining about it now. He is so great because he doesn’t alter his plan, for a ball park, to a pitcher, to a situation. that’s why he’s generally just fine in any situation.

    Puckett was awesome and had some great moments. Like in Game 6 of the ’91 World Series. Do people remember how disappointed they were in his lack of performance the first 3-4 games of those series?

    They playoffs are what they are… I realize there is a lot of negativity and Gardy’s record (6-21 or whatever) isn’t good. I know some say that it’s not a small sample size anymore… I would argue 27 is still a small sample size and when the annual sample is 3-4 games, it does remain different.

    I don’t understand three utility players, but it’s not like Jose Morales would have made any difference at all. Would Morneau have helped? Maybe. Would Nathan have helped? Maybe.

    I also think that the comments about lack of heart and lack of intensity aren’t quite fair. I think it’s hard to question people’s hearts. As someone above said, this isn’t a rah-rah sport. It’s not a chest-bumping thing. Sometimes the best, most intense players are cool and calm and don’t show visibly what’s going on inside… I’m disappointed in Mauer… and I’d love to see him show some intensity, but that’s not him.

    Anyway, there are some more thoughts to add.

    • mike October 12, 2010 at 7:34 am #

      Joe Nathan has helped enough Seth, ask Alex Rodriguez

  26. Joel October 12, 2010 at 8:50 am #

    I’m amazed at all the negative comments after the great season the Twins had!! I’m talking about the 162 games where they were competitive, where they won the majority of the series they played, where they were behind at the All-Star break and came back to kick butt and take the division. Would you rather be a Kansas City or Cleveland fan??! Enough said.

    Yes I’m disappointed that they didn’t play better against the Yankees, but to be honest, I didn’t expect them to. Not when the Yankees sign every top level free agent, year after year, to where just about every player is an All-star and/or $10 million dollar a year player. Until Major League Baseball institutes a salary cap, the Twins (and most other teams) will only be able to beat them when all their players have career years. Once the Twins lost Nathan and Morneau, their chances of beating the Yankees went down the drain.

    Again, would you rather be a Kansas City or Cleveland fan??? I’ll take the Twins being entertaining and competitive every year. Bill Smith, Gardy, and everyone down the line are doing a great job within the constraints of no salary cap.

  27. mike wants wins October 12, 2010 at 9:40 am #

    I’d rather be a White Sox fan, or a Twins’ fan from 87 and 91, and have them win the WS occassionally.

    The choice isn’t KC or CLE or MN. Those are not the only three options available for outcomes.

    I agree, it was a nice regular season. Some people want that, others want the WS titles. Neither is a bad fan, just people that want different forms of entertainment.

  28. Anare October 12, 2010 at 6:12 pm #

    I know I sound like a tin foil hat wearing nut but I think something weird was going on in this series. I have never seen a team disappear like that. These guys are professional athletes. They don’t get scared. They might look a little nervous and if they start playing really crappy they ordinarily get pissed and fired up. These guys were flat, no life in them. That is weird. We can argue til the cows come home about various little tweaks Gardy coulda/shoulda made but the truth is, the fix was in. MLB told the Twins to sit this one out. As for next year, please bring back Pavano and please leave leave Punto on the curb. Thanks.

  29. GroverGopher October 13, 2010 at 6:56 am #

    This is late, but I will add my two cents, fire Joe Vavra. He is the only coach on the current staff never to have been involved in a Twins play-off victory. It has to be his fault that we have lost 9 in a row to the Yankees.

  30. glanzerr October 13, 2010 at 8:12 am #

    New miserable stat to present this morning:

    Twins now have the 5th-longest ALCS drought of any AL team, trailing only Mariners (01), Orioles (98), Blue Jays (93), and Royals (85). Isn’t that ridiculous to think every other AL team has made the playoffs and won a series since 2003?

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