Marquis Attraction?

21 Dec

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Here are my thoughts on the reports from Ken Rosenthal that the Twins are nearing a deal with RHP Jason Marquis:

That’s it! Be sure to listen to last night’s Fanatic Jack Twins Podcast. I called in as a guest and was on for an hour, talking about a lot of the Twins moves. Specifically we talked about pitching options in the bullpen and in the rotation. Obviously the Marquis news came out during the podcast, so if you really would want to hear more of my thoughts on that topic, be sure to listen.

To summarize, he’s shown enough success in his long big league career (see 2004-2009), despite just 5.2 strikeouts per nine innings, that he could be another Carl Pavano, coming back from injuries the last couple of years. Or, more likely, he could be the next Ramon Ortiz, Sidney Ponson, etc. We have no report on the dollars, but I can’t imagine it would be more than $2 million guaranteed. At that, there’s no risk. Last year, he made 20 starts with the Nationals and went 8-5 with a 3.95 ERA in 120 innings. If he can do that with the Twins, I’d be thrilled, even if the innings count is due to someone like Liam Hendriks being ready to take over at that time.  

I do encourage you to listen to the podcast from last night. Jack finds a way to get me going and make me blunt and argumentative. I share my thoughts on why Twins fans can be positive looking to 2012. I share my thoughts on what I think is realistic for the Twins. It is a podcast that I do think you’ll find entertaining.

Please feel free to ask questions and leave comments.

16 Responses to “Marquis Attraction?”

  1. Greg December 22, 2011 at 2:06 am #

    I like the signing myself. Although, Mahol would be nice addition. Maybe Pineiro for bullpen power arm..

    I thought when Blackburn was in the pen he pitched better.

    Either way…Win Twins!

    • Greg December 22, 2011 at 2:06 am #

      Maholm

    • Chad December 22, 2011 at 9:42 am #

      Sorry Greg!

      No chance of the Twins getting to 500 this year!

      • DH in Philly December 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm #

        See you next year then

    • Seth December 22, 2011 at 9:19 pm #

      Pineiro is a power arm?

  2. Chad December 22, 2011 at 9:29 am #

    Jason Marquis stinks. The only thing this does is move Duensing to the bullpen and that will strengthen the bullpen. Basically typical Twins move. We signed him becauses he’s cheap. I would have preferred Octoval Dotel at 3 mill or latroy hawkins in are bullpen.

  3. mini_tb December 22, 2011 at 3:27 pm #

    The Twins obviously really need Liriano to get his head out of his posterior in 2012. A healthy Scott Baker, plus Pavano, Marquis, and 1 more starter following a rejuvenated Liriano in the rotation would not be too bad.

    So all the Twins need is health out of Morneau, Mauer, Span, and Baker and competence out of Liriano in 2012, and this could be a good team…

    Yeah, that’s a lot of “ifs” for sure, but I prefer my glass to be half full.

  4. Noel Shima December 22, 2011 at 4:47 pm #

    Seth: Thanks for the great info and insight you and other bloggers provide on my favorite team. Up here in Alaska it would not be as much fun to follow the Twins without you guys. The one thing I haven’t heard from any podcast or blog is that it looks like Terry Ryan has positioned the Twins to be able to add pieces in July if it looks like the Twins are in contention. Yes it will take some pretty solid seasons from several question marks to make that happen but Bill Smith did show that the Polads are willing to add payroll it there is a reason to do so. There are just too many question marks from too many players who will determine how the Twins will do this year, and adding one or two high priced players won’t do much good unless they perform at a high level.

  5. mike wants wins December 22, 2011 at 6:26 pm #

    How is Marquis better than Hendriks? That’s the part I don’t get with this team.

    • Seth December 22, 2011 at 9:22 pm #

      I’m not sure that has anything to do with it. Hendriks could have spent all of last season in AA. He’s not ready. Whether he’s better than Marquis isn’t the issue there. There is ZERO reason to bring Hendriks up at this point, not the least of which is that 1.) he’s not ready and 2.) why use arb clock time when he’s not? Also, I don’t know that we know that your first question is accurate anyway, yet.

      Despite the lack of Ks, Marquis had a decent 6 year stretch, and was solid last year with the Nats.

      I don’t get the outrage.

      • mike wants wins December 22, 2011 at 11:40 pm #

        I’m not outraged, I just don’t get the reluctance to bring up rookies as your number 5 starters, and spend the money on either a good starter or three relievers instead. But whatever, they weren’t going to sign a big time FA starting pitcher. And, they weren’t going to sign 3 RP and see which stuck to the wall, as it were. So, it is what it is, a SP to make us all go “meh”.

  6. dadandrusko December 22, 2011 at 10:36 pm #

    Much of the outrage probably derives from the conviction this is it for acquiring starting pitching. And there is good reason to believe that at least two, more likely four, of the top six starters will spend time on the DL next year. Average arms + short seasons for much of the staff=outrage.

  7. scot December 22, 2011 at 11:07 pm #

    We actually signed this bum? I would have preferred giving Slowey another chance.

    • mike wants wins December 22, 2011 at 11:40 pm #

      Agreed with this.

  8. Gary December 23, 2011 at 11:00 am #

    Wait for it…. Ryan has positioned the Twins to be sellers in 2012. They are stocked with low cost resources: Doumit, Carroll, Marquis, Liriano that may be attractive to other teams making a title push in 2012 at the 7/31/12 and 8/31/12 deadlines. And don’t think it is out of the relm of possibility that Morneau is traded in the 2013 season.

  9. peterb18 January 6, 2012 at 8:27 pm #

    A Baseball America commentator just recently said that he doubts that Morneau will ever play baseball agiain. Phil Maki stated that he has inside sources with the Twins. Think not, just a bunch of media BS. Unless you name your source it has no meaning.
    Most baseball experts expect the Twins to be one of the weakest, and poorest teams in all of baseball this year. Remember the Twins can have a respectable team anytime they want because ownership has the resoures. They should use the free agent market until the lower levels of the minor leagues are ready. There were some boos at the end of last year. There will be more this year.

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